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LET'S LISTEN IN AS ED VISITS WITH DIANE REHM, HOST OF NPR AND WITH DIANE REHM, HOST OF NPR AND WAMU'S, THE DIANE REHM SHOW. WAMU'S, THE DIANE REHM SHOW. >>YOU HAVE LISTENERS, >>YOU HAVE LISTENERS, 2.4 MILLION. 2.4 MILLION. >>2.5 NOW. >>2.5 NOW. >>2.4, AND GROWING 2.2, 2.3. >>2.4, AND GROWING 2.2, 2.3. >>AND NOW 2.5. >>AND NOW 2.5. >>PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS >>PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, IT IS 2.6. PROGRAM, IT IS 2.6. >>YOU NEVER KNOW! >>YOU NEVER KNOW! (LAUGHING). (LAUGHING). >>150, OR 160 STATIONS. >>150, OR 160 STATIONS. >>160 -- NO, 170. >>160 -- NO, 170. >>THAT'S GROWN. >>THAT'S GROWN. >>IT HAS. >>IT HAS. IT GREW 13 PERCENT JUST THE LAST IT GREW 13 PERCENT JUST THE LAST FROM FALL TO FALL. FROM FALL TO FALL. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GERMANY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GERMANY, JAPAN, FINLAND, ARMED FORCES JAPAN, FINLAND, ARMED FORCES NETWORK. NETWORK. >>ABSOLUTELY. >>ABSOLUTELY. AMERICAN FORCES NETWORK. AMERICAN FORCES NETWORK. IT IS NO LONGER ARMED FORCES. IT IS NO LONGER ARMED FORCES. >>OH, THEY CHANGED THE NAME. >>OH, THEY CHANGED THE NAME. >>AMERICAN FORCES. >>AMERICAN FORCES. >>DIANE, THINKING ABOUT >>DIANE, THINKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY, JUST SHORT OF APPROXIMATELY, JUST SHORT OF POPULATION OF CHICAGO, LISTENING POPULATION OF CHICAGO, LISTENING IN ON YOUR PROGRAM VIRTUALLY IN ON YOUR PROGRAM VIRTUALLY EVERY MORNING WITH FRIDAY BEING EVERY MORNING WITH FRIDAY BEING THE ROUND UP, DO YOU PINCH THE ROUND UP, DO YOU PINCH YOURSELF? YOURSELF? >> NO. >> NO. , REMEMBER, IT IS 33 YEARS. , REMEMBER, IT IS 33 YEARS. SO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I SO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I KNOW THE BATTLES I HAVE FOUGHT. KNOW THE BATTLES I HAVE FOUGHT. >>HOW MANY TOTAL GUESTS? >>HOW MANY TOTAL GUESTS? >> AH, THERE IS NO WAY I COULD >> AH, THERE IS NO WAY I COULD SPECULATE. SPECULATE. >>OKAY, THEN, LET ME ASK THIS >>OKAY, THEN, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION: WHO HAVE YOU NOT QUESTION: WHO HAVE YOU NOT INTERVIEWED THAT YOU WISHED TO, INTERVIEWED THAT YOU WISHED TO, LIVING OR DEAD? LIVING OR DEAD? >> OKAY, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO >> OKAY, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE INTERVIEWED ELEANOR HAVE INTERVIEWED ELEANOR ROOSEVELT. ROOSEVELT. I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN FASCINATING TO TALK WITH. FASCINATING TO TALK WITH. WHO WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO WHO WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO INTERVIEW JESUS CHRIST AS HE INTERVIEW JESUS CHRIST AS HE WALKED ON THIS EARTH. WALKED ON THIS EARTH. WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO INTERVIEW WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO INTERVIEW LAWRENCE OLIVIA. LAWRENCE OLIVIA. >>YOU HAVE INTERVIEWED PRETTY >>YOU HAVE INTERVIEWED PRETTY MUCH ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU MUCH ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE INTERVIEWED. INTERVIEWED. >>YES. >>YES. I INTERVIEWED BARACK OBAMA I INTERVIEWED BARACK OBAMA BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT WHILE BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT WHILE HE WAS STILL A SENATOR. HE WAS STILL A SENATOR. I HAVE NOT INTERVIEWED HIM SINCE I HAVE NOT INTERVIEWED HIM SINCE HE BECAME PRESIDENT. HE BECAME PRESIDENT. I VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO DO I VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. THAT. >>YOU ALSO YOU INTERVIEWED A >>YOU ALSO YOU INTERVIEWED A SITTING PRESIDENT IN THE OVAL SITTING PRESIDENT IN THE OVAL OFFICE. OFFICE. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>YOU ARE FIRST TO DO THAT. >>YOU ARE FIRST TO DO THAT. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >>WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >> BREATHTAKING. >> BREATHTAKING. >>WHY? >>WHY? >> WELL, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I >> WELL, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD EVER SEEN THE OVAL OFFICE, HAD EVER SEEN THE OVAL OFFICE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER ONE. THEY KEPT US WAITING THROUGH THEY KEPT US WAITING THROUGH HOURS, NUMBER TWO, AND WHEN HE HOURS, NUMBER TWO, AND WHEN HE FINALLY WALKED IN TO THE OVAL FINALLY WALKED IN TO THE OVAL OFFICE -- OFFICE -- >>HE,. >>HE,. >>THE PRESIDENT. >>THE PRESIDENT. >>WHICH PRESIDENT? >>WHICH PRESIDENT? >> BILL CLINTON. >> BILL CLINTON. >>OKAY. >>OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >>OKAY, SO I AM SITTING IN A >>OKAY, SO I AM SITTING IN A CHAIR IN FRONT OF THE FIREPLACE, CHAIR IN FRONT OF THE FIREPLACE, ANOTHER CHAIR AWAITS HIM. ANOTHER CHAIR AWAITS HIM. HE COMES BURSTING THROUGH THE HE COMES BURSTING THROUGH THE SIDE DOOR SAYING ", MY ALLERGIES SIDE DOOR SAYING ", MY ALLERGIES ARE KILLING ME!" ARE KILLING ME!" HIS EYES ARE RED. HIS EYES ARE RED. HIS NOSE IS RUNNING. HIS NOSE IS RUNNING. HE MOMS DOWHE PLOPS DOWN ON THE. HE MOMS DOWHE PLOPS DOWN ON THE. HE MET ME A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND HE MET ME A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND HE SAID, "ALL RIGHT, DIANE, WHAT HE SAID, "ALL RIGHT, DIANE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT?" ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT?" HE WAS DRIPPING THE WHOLE TIME. HE WAS DRIPPING THE WHOLE TIME. HE REACHES FOR A KLEENEX. HE REACHES FOR A KLEENEX. HE BLOWS HIS NOSE ON AIR! HE BLOWS HIS NOSE ON AIR! WHAT CAN YOU SAY? WHAT CAN YOU SAY? HE IS A NORMAL PERSON. HE IS A NORMAL PERSON. >> HE IS A NORMAL PERSON. >> HE IS A NORMAL PERSON. THERE IS A PART OF HIM THAT IS THERE IS A PART OF HIM THAT IS NORMAL. NORMAL. >>TOTALLY! >>TOTALLY! SO AT THE END OF THE INTERVIEW, SO AT THE END OF THE INTERVIEW, I SAID, "WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, I SAID, "WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, TELL ME WHAT LIVING IN THE WHITE TELL ME WHAT LIVING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HOW HAS IT AFFECTED YOUR HOUSE, HOW HAS IT AFFECTED YOUR MARRIAGE?" MARRIAGE?" HE GAVE THE ANSWER THAT EVERY HE GAVE THE ANSWER THAT EVERY NEWSPAPER PICKED UP THE NEXT NEWSPAPER PICKED UP THE NEXT DAY. DAY. HE SAID, "AH, IT HAS BEEN HE SAID, "AH, IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL! WONDERFUL! HILARY AND I LOVE SETTING OUT ON HILARY AND I LOVE SETTING OUT ON THE TRUMAN BALCONY ON SUNDAY'S THE TRUMAN BALCONY ON SUNDAY'S READING THE NEWSPAPER. READING THE NEWSPAPER. WE HAVE A GREAT TIME." WE HAVE A GREAT TIME." AND THAT WAS IT. AND THAT WAS IT. >>JIMMY CARTER CONFESSED THAT >>JIMMY CARTER CONFESSED THAT JIMMY AND HIS SPOUSE HAD JIMMY AND HIS SPOUSE HAD CONSIDERED -- CONSIDERED -- >>DIVORCE. >>DIVORCE. >>DIVORCE. >>DIVORCE. >>HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE >>HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAD HAD. ISSUES THAT THEY HAD HAD. ONE OF WHICH WAS THAT THE FACT ONE OF WHICH WAS THAT THE FACT THAT HE HAD NEVER TOLD HIS WIFE THAT HE HAD NEVER TOLD HIS WIFE HE WAS PLANNING TO RUN. HE WAS PLANNING TO RUN. I NEVER TOLD HER! I NEVER TOLD HER! AND I FOUND MYSELF THINKING AND I FOUND MYSELF THINKING "BOY, IF THAT ISN'T GROUNDS FOR "BOY, IF THAT ISN'T GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!" DIVORCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!" SO AT ONE POINT, I SAID, SO AT ONE POINT, I SAID, "MR. PRESIDENT, DID YOU AND "MR. PRESIDENT, DID YOU AND ROSALYN EVER CONSIDER DIVORCE ROSALYN EVER CONSIDER DIVORCE H?" H?" AND HE SITUATED, H SITUATE WAITE AND HE SITUATED, H SITUATE WAITE UPONDERED FOR TEN SECONDS, AND I UPONDERED FOR TEN SECONDS, AND I LET HIM BE. LET HIM BE. AND HE SAID, "YES, WE DID." AND HE SAID, "YES, WE DID." THEN I SAID, "WHAT DID YOU DO?" THEN I SAID, "WHAT DID YOU DO?" AND HE WAITED ANOTHER TEN AND HE WAITED ANOTHER TEN SECONDS, AND SAID," WE GOT DOWN SECONDS, AND SAID," WE GOT DOWN ON OUR KNEES AND PRAYED. ON OUR KNEES AND PRAYED. ". ". AND THAT WAS IT." AND THAT WAS IT." >>END OF STORY. >>END OF STORY. >>SEND OF STORY. >>SEND OF STORY. >>DIANE, AREN'T YOU IN PART, IN >>DIANE, AREN'T YOU IN PART, IN PART, PSYCHOLOGIST OR PART, PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYCHIATRIST? PSYCHIATRIST? >> I HAVE HAD A LOT OF THERAPY, >> I HAVE HAD A LOT OF THERAPY, I PROMISE YOU. I PROMISE YOU. I HAVE HAD 25 YEARS OF THERAPY, I HAVE HAD 25 YEARS OF THERAPY, TALKING THERAPY. TALKING THERAPY. I CONTINUED TO SEE MY THERAPIST I CONTINUED TO SEE MY THERAPIST AT LEAST ONCE EVERY THREE AT LEAST ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS, TALK TO HER ABOUT MONTHS, TALK TO HER ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN MY LIFE, AND THE LIGHT CHANGES MY LIFE, AND THE LIGHT CHANGES THAT I AM UNDERGOING NOW. THAT I AM UNDERGOING NOW. THAT HAS BEEN ENORMOUSLY THAT HAS BEEN ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT TO ME AND EDUCATIONAL. IMPORTANT TO ME AND EDUCATIONAL. THE LEARNING TO LISTEN. THE LEARNING TO LISTEN. >>IS IT DIFFICULT FOR A TALK >>IS IT DIFFICULT FOR A TALK SHOW HOST TO BE QUIET? SHOW HOST TO BE QUIET? >> AH, NO, NOT AT ALL BECAUSE I >> AH, NO, NOT AT ALL BECAUSE I THINK AS WE QUIET, THERE IS MORE THINK AS WE QUIET, THERE IS MORE COMING OUT FROM THE GUEST. COMING OUT FROM THE GUEST. IF YOU ALLOW THAT GUEST TIME TO IF YOU ALLOW THAT GUEST TIME TO THINK AS OPPOSED TO PURSUING, THINK AS OPPOSED TO PURSUING, PURSUING, PURSUING, THAT PERSON PURSUING, PURSUING, THAT PERSON WHO IS GOING TO SAY MORE ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO SAY MORE ABOUT WHAT IS IN HIS OR HER HEART. WHAT IS IN HIS OR HER HEART. YOU FIND THIS MOST ESPECIALLY YOU FIND THIS MOST ESPECIALLY WITH WRITERS. WITH WRITERS. WRITERS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO WRITERS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO DREAM, AND THEY DREAM THEIR WAY DREAM, AND THEY DREAM THEIR WAY INTO THEIR FICTION. INTO THEIR FICTION. HE IS SUCH A BRILLIANT WRITER, HE IS SUCH A BRILLIANT WRITER, AND TO SIMPLY SIT BACK AND WITH AND TO SIMPLY SIT BACK AND WITH A FEW INTERJECTING QUESTIONS, HE A FEW INTERJECTING QUESTIONS, HE WILL GO EVERY WHERE. WILL GO EVERY WHERE. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THAT'S WONDERFUL. >>I'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU >>I'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT TED COEPPEL, ABC ABOUT TED COEPPEL, ABC NIGHTTIME. NIGHTTIME. >>RIGHT. >>RIGHT. >>AND YOUR APPEARANCE ON THE >>AND YOUR APPEARANCE ON THE SHOW, YOUR SPEECH DISORDER. SHOW, YOUR SPEECH DISORDER. COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT FOR ME. COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT FOR ME. >>SURE. >>SURE. I HAVE SOMETHING CALLED SPAS MOT I HAVE SOMETHING CALLED SPAS MOT ICDYSPHONIA WHICH BEGINS IN THE ICDYSPHONIA WHICH BEGINS IN THE BRAIN, SENDING AN INCORRECT BRAIN, SENDING AN INCORRECT MESSAGE TO THE VOCAL CORDS MESSAGE TO THE VOCAL CORDS TELLING THEM TO CLAMP DOWN AND TELLING THEM TO CLAMP DOWN AND APPROPRIATELY I PERIODICALLY APPROPRIATELY I PERIODICALLY RECEIVE INJECTIONS OF BOTCHILSMS RECEIVE INJECTIONS OF BOTCHILSMS INTO THE VOCAL CHORDS. INTO THE VOCAL CHORDS. I HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT THE I HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT THE NEEDLE. NEEDLE. THOUGH MY HUSBAND TELLS ME IT IS THOUGH MY HUSBAND TELLS ME IT IS QUITE LONG, AND IT GOES IN, AND QUITE LONG, AND IT GOES IN, AND IS MOVED AROUND INSIDE THE VOCAL IS MOVED AROUND INSIDE THE VOCAL CHORDS, AS TO INSURE THIS TINY CHORDS, AS TO INSURE THIS TINY DROP, I IT IS 0.175 UNITS, THATS DROP, I IT IS 0.175 UNITS, THATS HOW MUCH I GET. HOW MUCH I GET. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS TO AND WHAT THAT DOES IS TO PARALYZE THE VOCAL CHORDS PARALYZE THE VOCAL CHORDS TEMPORARILY SO THEY ARE WIDE TEMPORARILY SO THEY ARE WIDE OPEN, AND THEN AS THE POISON OPEN, AND THEN AS THE POISON WEARS OFF, THE VOCAL CHORDS COME WEARS OFF, THE VOCAL CHORDS COME TOGETHER AND BEGIN TO VIBRATE TOGETHER AND BEGIN TO VIBRATE NATURALLY. NATURALLY. SO WHEN I GET THOSE INJECTIONS, SO WHEN I GET THOSE INJECTIONS, I AM USUALLY OUT FOR A GOOD TEN I AM USUALLY OUT FOR A GOOD TEN DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES. TAKES. I GET THE INJECTIONS MAYBE THREE I GET THE INJECTIONS MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR. TIMES A YEAR. SO IT IS NOT BAD. SO IT IS NOT BAD. AND I THINK HAVING EXPLAINED IT AND I THINK HAVING EXPLAINED IT ON THE AIR TO LISTENERS AROUND ON THE AIR TO LISTENERS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD, THEY THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD, THEY REALLY DO UNDERSTAND. REALLY DO UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE MY YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE MY VOICE, I URGE THEM TO CONTINUE VOICE, I URGE THEM TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN. TO LISTEN. WHEN THEY FIRST TUNE IN, THEY WHEN THEY FIRST TUNE IN, THEY SAY "WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS SAY "WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS WOMAN DOING ON THE AIR WITH A WOMAN DOING ON THE AIR WITH A VOICE SOUNDING LIKE THAT?" VOICE SOUNDING LIKE THAT?" WHAT I ENCOURAGE LISTENERS TO DO WHAT I ENCOURAGE LISTENERS TO DO IS TO LISTEN FOR A LITTLE WHILE, IS TO LISTEN FOR A LITTLE WHILE, JUST A FEW DAYS EVEN AND WHAT JUST A FEW DAYS EVEN AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY GET PAST THE HAPPENS IS THEY GET PAST THE VOICE TO THE CONTENT. VOICE TO THE CONTENT. IT IS THE CONTENT OF THE IT IS THE CONTENT OF THE PROGRAM. PROGRAM. IT IS NOT ME. IT IS NOT ME. IT IS THE CONTENT THAT THEY WILL IT IS THE CONTENT THAT THEY WILL BE SO ENRICHED BY. BE SO ENRICHED BY. >>YOU FIRST REALIZED YOU WERE >>YOU FIRST REALIZED YOU WERE THE SUBJECT OF THIS AFFLICTION THE SUBJECT OF THIS AFFLICTION IN '91. IN '91. >>'92. >>'92. >>IT TOOK AWHILE FOR THE >>IT TOOK AWHILE FOR THE FOLKS -- SO I WENT THROUGH ALL FOLKS -- SO I WENT THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THESE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND DOCTORS. AND DOCTORS. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FAILURE TO DIAGNOSIS THE FAILURE TO DIAGNOSIS THE DISEASE, THE ISSUE, THE DISEASE, THE ISSUE, THE AFFLICTION UNTIL AN INORDINATE AFFLICTION UNTIL AN INORDINATE PERIOD OF TIME? PERIOD OF TIME? ANY RESENTMENT TOWARD THE ANY RESENTMENT TOWARD THE MEDICAL SYSTEM OR THIS STUFF MEDICAL SYSTEM OR THIS STUFF HAPPENS? HAPPENS? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, DIANE? DIANE? >> MY OWN DAUGHTER IS A >> MY OWN DAUGHTER IS A PHYSICIAN. PHYSICIAN. SHE IS MARRIED TO A PHYSICIAN. SHE IS MARRIED TO A PHYSICIAN. I, MORE THAN ANYONE, KNOW THAT I, MORE THAN ANYONE, KNOW THAT MEDICINE IS A COMBINATION OF ART MEDICINE IS A COMBINATION OF ART AND SCIENCE, AND THESE GUYS AND SCIENCE, AND THESE GUYS SIMPLY MISSED IT. SIMPLY MISSED IT. >>THAT'S OKAY? >>THAT'S OKAY? >> NO! >> NO! I LOST SIX YEARS! I LOST SIX YEARS! I MEAN I WAS FRUSTRATED. I MEAN I WAS FRUSTRATED. I WAS WORRIED. I WAS WORRIED. I WAS SCARED. I WAS SCARED. BUT WHAT IS THE USE OF HOLDING BUT WHAT IS THE USE OF HOLDING ONTO RESENTMENT ABOUT THAT? ONTO RESENTMENT ABOUT THAT? WHAT I HAVE URGED, WHEN I HAVE WHAT I HAVE URGED, WHEN I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE OTT OT OTTO SPOKEN BEFORE OTT OT OTTO LARYNGOLOGIST, LISTEN TO THAT LARYNGOLOGIST, LISTEN TO THAT PATIENT. PATIENT. DON'T DISMISS ME. DON'T DISMISS ME. >>WELL, I RECALL READING ABOUT >>WELL, I RECALL READING ABOUT THE FIRST EPISODE THAT YOU THE FIRST EPISODE THAT YOU ENCOUNTERED. ENCOUNTERED. YOU HAD SOME THOUGHTS YOU YOU HAD SOME THOUGHTS YOU ATTRIBUTED IT TO STRESS, ATTRIBUTED IT TO STRESS, PUNISHMENT INFLICTED BY YOUR PUNISHMENT INFLICTED BY YOUR MOTHER, FOR EXAMPLE,. MOTHER, FOR EXAMPLE,. >>RIGHT. >>RIGHT. >>THAT'S PAINFUL, BUT IT IS IN >>THAT'S PAINFUL, BUT IT IS IN THE BOOK. THE BOOK. >>IN THE BOOK. >>IN THE BOOK. I ARRIVED MY MOTHER CALLED NEXT I ARRIVED MY MOTHER CALLED NEXT DOOR, AND MY FRIEND PICKED UP DOOR, AND MY FRIEND PICKED UP THE PHONE, AND SAID TO MY THE PHONE, AND SAID TO MY MOTHER, "OH, SHE ALREADY HAS MOTHER, "OH, SHE ALREADY HAS LEFT." LEFT." BY THAT TIME, I AM RUNNING DOWN BY THAT TIME, I AM RUNNING DOWN THE STAIRS TO GET HOME. THE STAIRS TO GET HOME. RIGHT NEXT DOOR! RIGHT NEXT DOOR! AND I WALKED IN, AND MY MOTHER AND I WALKED IN, AND MY MOTHER WAS FURIOUS, AND SHE BEGAN TO WAS FURIOUS, AND SHE BEGAN TO BEAT ME WITH -- WHO KNOWS WHAT. BEAT ME WITH -- WHO KNOWS WHAT. >>I THOUGHT IT WAS A PANCAKE >>I THOUGHT IT WAS A PANCAKE TURNER. TURNER. >>PANCAKE TURNER, AND BEGAN TO >>PANCAKE TURNER, AND BEGAN TO HIT ME EVERY WHERE UNTIL I LOST HIT ME EVERY WHERE UNTIL I LOST CONTROL OF MY BLADDER. CONTROL OF MY BLADDER. I MEAN IT WAS A TERRIBLE MEMORY, I MEAN IT WAS A TERRIBLE MEMORY, BUT IT IS ONE I PUT IN THE BOOK BUT IT IS ONE I PUT IN THE BOOK BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEING WHERE I AM UNDERSTAND THAT BEING WHERE I AM AND BEING WHO I AM DID NOT COME AND BEING WHO I AM DID NOT COME BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN IT. BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN IT. I AM HERE BECAUSE I WORKED I AM HERE BECAUSE I WORKED THROUGH A GREAT DEAL OF THAT. THROUGH A GREAT DEAL OF THAT. SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 49. SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 49. SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHY SHE USED UNDERSTANDING OF WHY SHE USED CORPORAL PUNISHMENT IN THAT WAY. CORPORAL PUNISHMENT IN THAT WAY. I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SHE WAS HERE A LONE. SHE WAS HERE A LONE. MY FATHER CAME HERE WITH HIS MY FATHER CAME HERE WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY. ENTIRE FAMILY. MY MOTHER CAME HERE WITHOUT MY MOTHER CAME HERE WITHOUT ANYONE. ANYONE. AND MY FATHER'S FAMILY WAS HUGE. AND MY FATHER'S FAMILY WAS HUGE. MY MOTHER WAS BEAUTIFUL. MY MOTHER WAS BEAUTIFUL. MY FATHER'S SISTERS WERE NOT. MY FATHER'S SISTERS WERE NOT. THEY CUT MY MOTHER'S EYELASHES. THEY CUT MY MOTHER'S EYELASHES. THEY STOLE HER BRAS. THEY STOLE HER BRAS. THEY DID ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY DID ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO HARASS HER, AND I THEY COULD TO HARASS HER, AND I THINK IN THE END WHAT SHE HAD THINK IN THE END WHAT SHE HAD WAS THE COURAGE TO COME HERE WAS THE COURAGE TO COME HERE WITH MY FATHER LEAVING BEHIND WITH MY FATHER LEAVING BEHIND HER FAMILY, BUT FACING A LONELY HER FAMILY, BUT FACING A LONELY NES MORE PROFOUND THAN ANYTHING NES MORE PROFOUND THAN ANYTHING I WILL EVER KNOW. I WILL EVER KNOW. >>DIANE, WHY DO YOU STILL USE >>DIANE, WHY DO YOU STILL USE ELIZABETH ARE DEN BLUE GLASS? ELIZABETH ARE DEN BLUE GLASS? >> MY MOTHER USED IT. >> MY MOTHER USED IT. IT WAS IN HER DRESSING ROOM. IT WAS IN HER DRESSING ROOM. IT HAD BEAUTIFUL LIGHT IT HAD BEAUTIFUL LIGHT FRAGRANCE. FRAGRANCE. IT WAS CREATED IN 1937, THE YEAR IT WAS CREATED IN 1937, THE YEAR AFTER I WAS BORN. AFTER I WAS BORN. MY MOTHER USED IT THROUGHOUT HER MY MOTHER USED IT THROUGHOUT HER LIFE. LIFE. I BEGAN USING IT WHEN I WAS 16, I BEGAN USING IT WHEN I WAS 16, AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT? AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT? MY DAUGHTER NOW USES IT. MY DAUGHTER NOW USES IT. >> IT IS INTERESTING, DON'T YOU >> IT IS INTERESTING, DON'T YOU THINK, IN LIGHT OF THE THINK, IN LIGHT OF THE RELATIONSHIP OR ABSENCE OF RELATIONSHIP OR ABSENCE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR MOTHER. RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR MOTHER. IT IS A WAY TO KEEP IN TOUCH. IT IS A WAY TO KEEP IN TOUCH. >>AND, YET, YOU ARE ABLE TO GET >>AND, YET, YOU ARE ABLE TO GET OVER THOSE SPEED BUMPS, THAT OVER THOSE SPEED BUMPS, THAT RELATIONSHIP, AND STILL YOU RELATIONSHIP, AND STILL YOU REMEMBER THE GOOD THINGS, AND REMEMBER THE GOOD THINGS, AND NOT NECESSARILY THE BAD THINGS. NOT NECESSARILY THE BAD THINGS. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>THAT'S WHY THE BOOK, "FINDING >>THAT'S WHY THE BOOK, "FINDING MY VOICE" HAD TO BE SO PAINFUL MY VOICE" HAD TO BE SO PAINFUL TO WRITE. TO WRITE. SOME OF THE EPISODES YOU SOME OF THE EPISODES YOU REFERRED TO IN THIS BOOK, HAVE REFERRED TO IN THIS BOOK, HAVE TO BE PAINFUL! TO BE PAINFUL! >>WHEN I FINISHED THAT BOOK, I >>WHEN I FINISHED THAT BOOK, I REALIZED THAT IT WAS REF L REVEY REALIZED THAT IT WAS REF L REVEY TO ME. TO ME. PEOPLE ASKED IF IT WAS PEOPLE ASKED IF IT WAS CATHARSIS, I SAID, NO, IT WAS CATHARSIS, I SAID, NO, IT WAS REVELATORY BECAUSE IN THE END, REVELATORY BECAUSE IN THE END, ED, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION ED, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SHE HAD HAVE TO HAVE HAD THAT SHE HAD HAVE TO HAVE HAD SUCH COURAGE TO LEAVE HER FAMILY SUCH COURAGE TO LEAVE HER FAMILY BEHIND. BEHIND. THE LAST TIME MY GRANDMOTHER THE LAST TIME MY GRANDMOTHER CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, I WAS 12 CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. YEARS OLD. SHE WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM MY SHE WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM MY MOTHER. MOTHER. SHE WAS SO WARM AND SWEET AND SHE WAS SO WARM AND SWEET AND OUTGOING. OUTGOING. SHE LOVED ME. SHE LOVED ME. HER HAIR WAS LIKE BLACK SILK. HER HAIR WAS LIKE BLACK SILK. AND WE SAT ON THE FRONT PORCH AND WE SAT ON THE FRONT PORCH EACH MORNING. EACH MORNING. SHE WAS A SMOKER. SHE WAS A SMOKER. AND HERE I AM AT 12 YEARS OLD AND HERE I AM AT 12 YEARS OLD LONGING TO HAVE A PUFF OF HER LONGING TO HAVE A PUFF OF HER CIGARETTE WHICH SHE GAVE ME. CIGARETTE WHICH SHE GAVE ME. WE TALKED. WE TALKED. SHE COULD SPEAK NO ENGLISH. SHE COULD SPEAK NO ENGLISH. SO I RENEWED MY ARABIC THAT I SO I RENEWED MY ARABIC THAT I HAD HAD AS A CHILD, AND WHEN SHE HAD HAD AS A CHILD, AND WHEN SHE LEFT, WHEN MY FATHER TOOK HER LEFT, WHEN MY FATHER TOOK HER BACK TO NEW YORK. BACK TO NEW YORK. SHE HAD BEEN WITH US FOR ONE SHE HAD BEEN WITH US FOR ONE YEAR, I FELT MY MOTHER UPSTAIRS YEAR, I FELT MY MOTHER UPSTAIRS CRYING. CRYING. IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES IN IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES IN MY LIFE I EVER SAW HER CRY. MY LIFE I EVER SAW HER CRY. I SAID, "MOMMA, WHY ARE YOU I SAID, "MOMMA, WHY ARE YOU CRYING?" CRYING?" SHE SAID "BECAUSE I WILL NEVER SHE SAID "BECAUSE I WILL NEVER SEE MY MOTHER AGAIN. SEE MY MOTHER AGAIN. " AND SHE WAS RIGHT. " AND SHE WAS RIGHT. >>NOT ONLY HAVE YOU ENDURED, BUT >>NOT ONLY HAVE YOU ENDURED, BUT YOU HAVE PREVAILED. YOU HAVE PREVAILED. I CAN'T COUNT THE NUMBER OF I CAN'T COUNT THE NUMBER OF AWARDS YOU HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AWARDS YOU HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS ONE OF THE ONE HUNDRED MOST AS ONE OF THE ONE HUNDRED MOST POWERFUL WOMEN IN 2011. POWERFUL WOMEN IN 2011. 150 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN 150 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, JOURNALISM, HONORARY WASHINGTON, JOURNALISM, HONORARY DEGREES AMERICAN UNIVERSITY, DEGREES AMERICAN UNIVERSITY, WASHINGTON COLLEGE, McDANIEL, WASHINGTON COLLEGE, McDANIEL, SHEPHERD. SHEPHERD. WITH THE VOICE OF THE DISTRICT WITH THE VOICE OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA TRAFFIC, WHAT WAS OF COLUMBIA TRAFFIC, WHAT WAS GOOD EVENINGOING ON THERE! GOOD EVENINGOING ON THERE! >>I WAS RIGHT FROM HIGH SCHOOL. >>I WAS RIGHT FROM HIGH SCHOOL. MY FIRST JOB WAS AS SECRETARY TO MY FIRST JOB WAS AS SECRETARY TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS FOR THE DISTRICT OF OF HIGHWAYS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. COLUMBIA. AND HE SAID TO ME, "DIANE, I AND HE SAID TO ME, "DIANE, I WANT YOU TO GET ON OUR LITTLE WANT YOU TO GET ON OUR LITTLE TWO WAY RADIO, AND I WANT YOU TO TWO WAY RADIO, AND I WANT YOU TO TELL THE WORKERS ALL OVER THE TELL THE WORKERS ALL OVER THE CITY WHERE THE POTHOLES ARE." CITY WHERE THE POTHOLES ARE." AND EVERY SINGLE DAY ON HIS WAY AND EVERY SINGLE DAY ON HIS WAY TO WORK, HE WOULD DRIVE AROUND TO WORK, HE WOULD DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND SEE THESE POTHOLES. THE CITY AND SEE THESE POTHOLES. HE WOULD COME IN AND GIVE ME A HE WOULD COME IN AND GIVE ME A LIST, AND I WOULD GET ON THAT LIST, AND I WOULD GET ON THAT TWO WAY RADIO. TWO WAY RADIO. YOU WERE THE POTHOLE LADY. YOU WERE THE POTHOLE LADY. >>I WAS THE POTHOLE LADY. >>I WAS THE POTHOLE LADY. >>POTHOLE QUEEN. >>POTHOLE QUEEN. >>ABSOLUTELY! >>ABSOLUTELY! >>FROM THERE, NEXT JOB? >>FROM THERE, NEXT JOB? >> FROM THERE, I WENT TO THE >> FROM THERE, I WENT TO THE U.S. POSTAL INSPECTOR SERVICE. U.S. POSTAL INSPECTOR SERVICE. FROM THERE, I WAS RECRUITED TO FROM THERE, I WAS RECRUITED TO GO TO THIS STATE DEPARTMENT AS A GO TO THIS STATE DEPARTMENT AS A SECRETARY WITH A NICE, HANDSOME SECRETARY WITH A NICE, HANDSOME MAN, WHERE I MET JOHN WHO WAS AN MAN, WHERE I MET JOHN WHO WAS AN ASSISTANT LEGAL ADVISOR FOR ASSISTANT LEGAL ADVISOR FOR ECONOMIC AFFAIRS. ECONOMIC AFFAIRS. >>AND YOU MARRIED, 19, DIVORCED >>AND YOU MARRIED, 19, DIVORCED AT 21. AT 21. >>JOHN WALKS OVER WITH A THIS >>JOHN WALKS OVER WITH A THIS BIG BOOMING VOICE. BIG BOOMING VOICE. >>BIG BOOMING VOICE. >>BIG BOOMING VOICE. >>HE WAS HAVING AN INTERESTING >>HE WAS HAVING AN INTERESTING LADY HE SEES THERE. LADY HE SEES THERE. >>WELL EXACTLY, AND WE HAD SORT >>WELL EXACTLY, AND WE HAD SORT OF FLUR TATION ABOUT BASEBALL OF FLUR TATION ABOUT BASEBALL BECAUSE HE PLAYED FOR THE STATE BECAUSE HE PLAYED FOR THE STATE DEPARTMENT MEN'S TEAM. DEPARTMENT MEN'S TEAM. I PLAYED FOR THE STATE I PLAYED FOR THE STATE DEPARTMENT WOMEN'S TEAM. DEPARTMENT WOMEN'S TEAM. SO WE HAD THAT IN COMMON, AND SO WE HAD THAT IN COMMON, AND LITTLE SARCASM GOING ON, THE LITTLE SARCASM GOING ON, THE FLIP SIDE OF SARCASM IS FLUR FLIP SIDE OF SARCASM IS FLUR TATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS TATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING. HAPPENING. BEGAN COMING TO WATCH ME PLAY BEGAN COMING TO WATCH ME PLAY SOFTBALL. SOFTBALL. I BEGAN GOING TO WATCH HIM PLAY I BEGAN GOING TO WATCH HIM PLAY SOFTBALL. SOFTBALL. DECEMBER, FIRST WEEKEND OF DECEMBER, FIRST WEEKEND OF DECEMBER, 1959, HE PROPOSED. DECEMBER, 1959, HE PROPOSED. AND I SAID "WELL, OKAY. AND I SAID "WELL, OKAY. WHEN DO YOU WANT TO GET WHEN DO YOU WANT TO GET MARRIED?" MARRIED?" HE SAID, "IN THREE WEEKS. HE SAID, "IN THREE WEEKS. ". ". LET'S DO IT IN THREE WEEKS, AND LET'S DO IT IN THREE WEEKS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. THAT'S WHAT WE DID. >>YOU WROTE THE BOOKS. >>YOU WROTE THE BOOKS. >>MAX MAXIE. >>MAX MAXIE. >>IT STARTS OUT WHEN YOU FOUND >>IT STARTS OUT WHEN YOU FOUND MAXIE. MAXIE. >>THE TWO OF YOU, JOHN AND DIANE >>THE TWO OF YOU, JOHN AND DIANE GO TO PICK OUT A DOG. GO TO PICK OUT A DOG. >>WELL, THERE WERE TWO RIGHT >>WELL, THERE WERE TWO RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR A LITTLE THERE ON THE FLOOR A LITTLE BROTHER AND LITTLE SISTER. BROTHER AND LITTLE SISTER. AND I THOUGHT, WHAT COULD BE AND I THOUGHT, WHAT COULD BE MORE MARVELOUS. MORE MARVELOUS. >> TWO DOGS. >> TWO DOGS. >>THAN TWO DOGS. >>THAN TWO DOGS. BUT JOHN KEPT CHIDING ME AND BUT JOHN KEPT CHIDING ME AND SAYING "DIANE, YOU PROMISED YOU SAYING "DIANE, YOU PROMISED YOU WOULD NOT GET A DOG UNTIL AFTER WOULD NOT GET A DOG UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE RETIRED." YOU HAVE RETIRED." I SAID "BUT I MAY NOT RETIRE FOR I SAID "BUT I MAY NOT RETIRE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND I REALLY, YEARS AND YEARS, AND I REALLY, REALLY WANT A DOG." REALLY WANT A DOG." IN FACT, I WANT BOTH OF THESE IN FACT, I WANT BOTH OF THESE DOGS. DOGS. HE THREW UP HIS HANDS AND SAID HE THREW UP HIS HANDS AND SAID "ARE YOU CRAZY!" "ARE YOU CRAZY!" SO THE WOMAN WHO HAD BROUGHT THE SO THE WOMAN WHO HAD BROUGHT THE DOGS SAID "I CAN SEE YOU TWO DOGS SAID "I CAN SEE YOU TWO HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT." HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT." >>NEOGTIATING THE ACQUISITION OF >>NEOGTIATING THE ACQUISITION OF THE DOGS. THE DOGS. >>EXACTLY. >>EXACTLY. >>ANYTHING IN YOUR MARRIAGE YOU >>ANYTHING IN YOUR MARRIAGE YOU HAVEN'T NEGOTIATED? HAVEN'T NEGOTIATED? >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND REDOING THE HOUSE, PURCHASING REDOING THE HOUSE, PURCHASING SHRUBBERY, IT ALL HAD TO BE SHRUBBERY, IT ALL HAD TO BE NEGOTIATED. NEGOTIATED. >>IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. >>IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. >>PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I HAD >>PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I HAD A STUBBORN FELLOW THAT I LIVED A STUBBORN FELLOW THAT I LIVED WITH. WITH. >>WHO WON? >>WHO WON? >> WELL, LOTS OF TIMES HE WON, >> WELL, LOTS OF TIMES HE WON, AND LOTS OF TIMES I WON. AND LOTS OF TIMES I WON. >> YOU KEPT SCORE, OF COURSE. >> YOU KEPT SCORE, OF COURSE. >>BUT WE HAVE MAXIE, AND MAXIE, >>BUT WE HAVE MAXIE, AND MAXIE, NOW THAT JOHN IS IN ASSISTED NOW THAT JOHN IS IN ASSISTED LIVING. LIVING. >>WITH PARKINSON'S. >>WITH PARKINSON'S. >>HE HAS SERIOUS PARKINSON'S >>HE HAS SERIOUS PARKINSON'S DISEASE. DISEASE. MAXIE AND I LIVE A LONE IN THE MAXIE AND I LIVE A LONE IN THE CONDO THAT JOHN AND I WERE CONDO THAT JOHN AND I WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE FIVE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS JUST IN NOVEMBER OF 2012 THAT JOHN'S IN NOVEMBER OF 2012 THAT JOHN'S PARKINSON'S REACHED SUCH A POINT PARKINSON'S REACHED SUCH A POINT THAT HE BEGAN FALLING IN THE THAT HE BEGAN FALLING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND I COULD MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND I COULD NOT LIFT HIM. NOT LIFT HIM. THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED, IT THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED, IT WAS AT 3:30 IN THE MORNING. WAS AT 3:30 IN THE MORNING. AND I FOUND HIM LYING ON THE AND I FOUND HIM LYING ON THE FLOOR IN FRONT OF THE BATHROOM. FLOOR IN FRONT OF THE BATHROOM. I HADN'T HEARD HIM FALL. I HADN'T HEARD HIM FALL. AND IT TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET AND IT TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET HIM ONTO HIS KNEES, AND THEN I HIM ONTO HIS KNEES, AND THEN I HAD TO PULL HIM TO THE BEDSIDE HAD TO PULL HIM TO THE BEDSIDE ON HIS KNEES, AND THEN HELP HIM ON HIS KNEES, AND THEN HELP HIM GET HIS BOTTOM UP ON THE BED AND GET HIS BOTTOM UP ON THE BED AND THEN HIS LEGS. THEN HIS LEGS. PARKINSON'S IS A TERRIBLE PARKINSON'S IS A TERRIBLE DISEASE. DISEASE. THIS YOUNG, GORGEOUS MAN WEIGHED THIS YOUNG, GORGEOUS MAN WEIGHED 185 MOUNDS, 6 FEET TALL, WHEN I 185 MOUNDS, 6 FEET TALL, WHEN I MARRIED HIM. MARRIED HIM. HE LOOKED LIKE A FOOTBALL HE LOOKED LIKE A FOOTBALL PLAYER. PLAYER. HE NOW WEIGHS 130 POUNDS. HE NOW WEIGHS 130 POUNDS. >>SILENCE. >>SILENCE. WE NOW HAVE DIANE IN A PERIOD OF WE NOW HAVE DIANE IN A PERIOD OF SILENCE LIVING ALONE. SILENCE LIVING ALONE. DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS SILENCE? HANDLE THIS SILENCE? >> WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS MY JOY >> WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS MY JOY INSIDE LENS, MIN IN, SILENCE. INSIDE LENS, MIN IN, SILENCE. MY JOY OF GOING INTO THE OFFICE MY JOY OF GOING INTO THE OFFICE WITH WONDERFUL PRODUCERS, THE WITH WONDERFUL PRODUCERS, THE PEOPLE AT THE STATION TALKING PEOPLE AT THE STATION TALKING WITH PEOPLE IN THE STUDIO, WITH PEOPLE IN THE STUDIO, TALKING WITH PEOPLE ON THE AIR, TALKING WITH PEOPLE ON THE AIR, AND THEN COMING HOME TO THAT AND THEN COMING HOME TO THAT WONDERFUL COMFORTABLE CONDO WITH WONDERFUL COMFORTABLE CONDO WITH MY LITTLE DOG, MAXIE, JUST SO MY LITTLE DOG, MAXIE, JUST SO HAPPY TO SEE ME, AND TWO OF US HAPPY TO SEE ME, AND TWO OF US TALK ALL AFTERNOON. TALK ALL AFTERNOON. IF YOU COULD REWIND YOUR LIFE, IF YOU COULD REWIND YOUR LIFE, REWIND THE LIFE OF DIANE REHM, REWIND THE LIFE OF DIANE REHM, HOW WOULD SHE CHANGE HER LIFE? HOW WOULD SHE CHANGE HER LIFE? >>I THINK THAT WHAT I HAVE >>I THINK THAT WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE HAS MADE EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE HAS MADE ME WHO I AM. ME WHO I AM. I WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING, NOT A I WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING, NOT A SINGLE THING. SINGLE THING. >>THIS HAS BEEN MY PRIVILEGE AND >>THIS HAS BEEN MY PRIVILEGE AND PLEASURE, AND I AM PLEASED TO PLEASURE, AND I AM PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU ARE IN PEORIA. SEE THAT YOU ARE IN PEORIA. >>OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOVELY. LOVELY. LOVELY. LOVELY. >>