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Eternal derby of Slovenian football (1962–2004)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Večni derbi
Other namesSlovenski derbi
LocationLjubljanaMaribor, Slovenia
TeamsMaribor
Olimpija
First meetingOlimpija 1–1 Maribor
Yugoslav Second League
(2 September 1962)
Latest meetingOlimpija 1–0 Maribor
Slovenian PrvaLiga
(7 November 2004)
StadiumsBežigrad (Olimpija)
Ljudski vrt (Maribor)
Statistics
Meetings total83
Most winsMaribor (31)
Largest victoryOlimpija 6–1 Maribor[1]

The Eternal derby of Slovenian football, simply known as the Eternal derby (Slovene: Večni derbi) or Slovenian derby (Slovene: Slovenski derbi) was a football rivalry between NK Maribor and NK Olimpija, which was dissolved in 2005.

In 2005, a new club under the name of NK Bežigrad was founded and later changed its name to NK Olimpija Ljubljana. Because most of the fans that supported the dissolved Olimpija started to support Bežigrad, the continuation of the rivalry is considered by most Slovenian media and fans as the matches between Maribor and the new Olimpija Ljubljana, established in 2005 as NK Bežigrad. The new club consider themselves as the spiritual continuation of the dissolved club, however, legally, the current Olimpija Ljubljana is a distinct and separate club as treated by the Football Association of Slovenia.

Location of both teams

History and rivalry culture

In Yugoslavia

The rivalry between Maribor and Olimpija began in the early 1960s, when the first match between the two clubs was played.[1] Although the first match was played in 1962 it was not until the independence of Slovenia from 1991 onwards when most of the matches were played.[1] The main reason being the fact that both clubs were part of the Yugoslav football system and, during the period from 1960 (establishment of NK Maribor) until 1991 (establishment of Slovenian league, the Slovenian PrvaLiga), played only a total of ten seasons in the same league. The two clubs were one of only three Slovenian football clubs, the other being Nafta Lendava, to play in the Yugoslav First League. Maribor played in the Yugoslav top division for a total of five seasons, between 1967–68 and 1971–72, with the best result of tenth place in 1969–70. Olimpija played in the Yugoslav first league for a total of twenty seasons, in 1953–54 and between 1965–66 and 1983–84, with the best result of seventh place in 1970–71 and 1982–83. Both clubs also played in the Yugoslav Cup, where Maribor achieved its best result in 1973 and 1980 with reaching quarter-finals, while Olimpija was the runner-up in the 1970 edition.

In Slovenia

In 1991, after Slovenia declared independence, both clubs were the founding members of the Slovenian top division, 1. SNL, and played there up until the end of the 2004–05 season and the dissolution of NK Olimpija.[2] Until the dissolution of Olimpija, both clubs were the most successful teams in Slovenian club football. From 1991 until 2005 Maribor and Olimpija had won a combined total of eleven out of fourteen Slovenian championships (Maribor 7, Olimpija 4), and nine out of fourteen Slovenian cups (Maribor 5, Olimpija 4).

The rivalry reached its peak in the final round of the 2000–01 season, when one of the most celebrated matches in the 1. SNL history was played, when Olimpija met Maribor at their home stadium, Bežigrad. Both teams were competing for their fifth Slovenian league title. The home team needed a win for the title, while a draw was enough for Maribor. The atmosphere was electric days before the kick-off and the stadium with 8,500 seats was completely sold out. At the end, the match ended with a draw (1–1) and Maribor won their fifth consecutive title[3] in front of 3,000 their fans that gathered in Ljubljana that day.[4]

After the 2004–05 season, Olimpija folded due to financial issues. On 2 March 2005 a new club was established,[5][6] under the name NK Bežigrad, retaining Olimpija's fans, colours and most of the youth team players. NK Bežigrad later changed its name twice. First to NK Olimpija Bežigrad and finally to NK Olimpija Ljubljana. Although the board of the newly established club and its fans see the team as the spiritual continuation of the old club, they are not regarded as the legal successors of the old NK Olimpija by the Football Association of Slovenia and are not entitled to claim the honours won by the defunct club.[7][8]

However, because the new Olimpija is supported by most of the fans of the previous Olimpija, including their ultras group Green Dragons who has a long-standing rivalry with Maribor's own ultras group Viole Maribor, many see the matches between Maribor and the new club as the continuation of the rivalry and refer to it by the same name.[9][10]

The first match between NK Maribor and the new NK Olimpija took place on 24 October 2007 in a Slovenian Cup quarter-final match, won by Maribor 3–1.[11] At the time NK Olimpija was still competing under the name NK Olimpija Bežigrad.[11]

Fans

The two teams represented the two largest cities in Slovenia, the capital city of Ljubljana and the second largest city Maribor. Overall, the two clubs were always the most popular football clubs in the country.[citation needed] Traditionally, Ljubljana represents the wealthier western part of the country, while Maribor is the center of the poorer eastern part.[12] In addition, Ljubljana was always the cultural, educational, economic and political center of the country and Olimpija and its fans were considered as the representatives of the upper class.[citation needed] Maribor, on the other hand, was one of the most industrialized cities in Yugoslavia and the majority of its fans were the representatives of the working class, which means that the added tension to the rivalry was usually also political, social and cultural as well.[citation needed] However, this kind of division was much more apparent in the past, as the class differences between the fanbases have faded out and the social gap that once separated the two sides has closed over the years.[citation needed]

Besides the city of Maribor itself and the surrounding area, NK Maribor also has a large fan base in the whole regions of Lower Styria and Slovenian Carinthia.[13] Olimpija on the other hand draws much of its fans from the central part of the country, the majority from the city of Ljubljana with the surrounding area of southern Upper Carniola and northwestern Lower Carniola.[citation needed]

Both clubs always had support on their matches from ultras groups called Viole Maribor, supporting NK Maribor, and Green Dragons who supported NK Olimpija. The two groups are among the largest in the country[14] and it is not uncommon that the matches between the two clubs were sometimes interrupted by clashes between the two groups or with the police.[15] On many occasions, before or after the matches, the fans of the two clubs clashed on the streets. One of the worst incidents, in April 2010 after a match, resulted in a stabbing of a member of the Green Dragons who, with a group of friends, got into a fight with members of the Viole in Ljubljana's railway station.[16] However, to date, there has not been any fatalities in the country related to football violence.

Players

Vili Ameršek is the leading goalscorer among all players that have participated in the matches between Maribor and Olimpija. He has played in the time of SFR Yugoslavia for Olimpija and scored a total of 14 goals against Maribor.[1] Second place is shared between Marko Kmetec and Damir Pekič who both scored 8 goals and are the most successful players after the independence of Slovenia in 1991 and the establishment of the 1. SNL.[1] Gregor Židan, Željko Milinovič and Amir Karić are the only three players who have played for all three clubs involved in the rivalry. Židan played for the old Olimpija in the Yugoslav first league, while later playing for Maribor in the Slovenian first league, 1. SNL. He then retired, only to return to football couple of years later where he played for the new Olimpija Ljubljana, at the time still known by the name NK Bežigrad, in lower tiers of Slovenian football. Milanič on the other hand played in 1. SNL for both clubs and later joined the new Olimpija, at the time known by the name NK Bežigrad where he played less than a season and eventually finished his career. Karić also played for both Maribor and the old Olimpija in 1. SNL. After few years spent abroad he eventually joined the new Olimpija, at the time still known as NK Bežigrad and then Olimpija Bežigrad, where he played in lower tiers of Slovenian football for couple of seasons before moving to Koper.

Direct transfers

Six players have transferred directly from Maribor to Olimpija, and eight players from Olimpija to Maribor. Kliton Bozgo and Nastja Čeh have transferred directly from Maribor to Olimpija and back.[1]

Honours

Official statistics of honours won by NK Maribor and NK Olimpija, established in 1945 and dissolved in 2005, as treated by the Football Association of Slovenia. The honours are counted until 2005, when Olimpija was dissolved.

Major honours won
Competition Maribor Olimpija
1. SNL 7 4
Slovenian Cup 5 4
Slovenian Supercup 0 1
Total 12 9

Matches list

Yugoslav football leagues

The head-to-head matches shows the results of Maribor and Olimpija, when they played in the same league.
Host Maribor Olimpija
Season R. Venue Atten. Score R. Venue Atten. Score
1962–631 18 Ljudski vrt 12,000 3–2 3 Bežigrad 10,000 1–1
1963–641 6 Ljudski vrt 12,000 1–1 21 Bežigrad 20,000 1–1
1964–651 26 Ljudski vrt 10,000 0–4 14 Bežigrad 13,000 3–1
1967–68 13 Ljudski vrt 13,000 0–0 28 Bežigrad 8,000 2–2
1968–69 2 Ljudski vrt 8,000 2–2 19 Bežigrad 5,000 4–1
1969–70 11 Ljudski vrt 7,000 3–2 28 Bežigrad 5,000 2–1
1970–71 22 Ljudski vrt 6,000 1–0 5 Bežigrad 7,000 3–1
1971–72 34 Ljudski vrt 1,500 3–6 17 Bežigrad 5,000 3–0
1984–851 28 Ljudski vrt 7,000 2–0 11 Bežigrad 4,000 1–0
1985–862 3 Ljudski vrt 3,500 2–1 16 Bežigrad 1,500 0–0

1Second Yugoslav division; 2Third Yugoslav Division
Source: Archive data on nkmaribor.com

Total: Olimpija 8 wins (40%), 7 draw (35%), Maribor 5 wins (25%).

Slovenian PrvaLiga

The head-to-head matches shows the results of Maribor and Olimpija.[nb 1]
Host Maribor Olimpija
Season R. Date Venue Atten. Score R. Date Venue Atten. Score
1991–92 13 16 October 1991 Ljudski vrt 4,000 2–1 34 6 May 1992 Bežigrad 7,000 2–0
1992–93 22 4 April 1993 Ljudski vrt 7,000 1–0 5 12 September 1992 Bežigrad 1,000 3–0
1993–94 30 12 June 1994 Ljudski vrt 4,500 3–1 15 28 November 1993 Bežigrad 5,000 1–1
1994–95 17 5 March 1995 Ljudski vrt 7,000 0–2 2 14 August 1994 Bežigrad 2,000 2–1
1995–96 4 18 August 1995 Ljudski vrt 7,000 5–1 14 29 October 1995 Bežigrad 3,000 0–1
32 11 May 1996 Ljudski vrt 5,000 2–1 22 17 March 1996 Bežigrad 2,000 1–0
1996–97 1 4 August 1996 Ljudski vrt 5,000 0–0 11 12 October 1996 Bežigrad 2,800 1–0
29 4 May 1997 Ljudski vrt 7,000 5–2 19 1 March 1997 Bežigrad 2,000 1–2
1997–98 4 17 August 1997 Ljudski vrt 6,500 2–0 14 2 November 1997 Bežigrad 2,000 3–1
32 16 May 1998 Ljudski vrt 5,000 4–4 22 21 March 1998 Bežigrad 3,000 1–3
1998–99 19 13 March 1999 Ljudski vrt 7,000 3–1 8 25 September 1998 Bežigrad 5,000 1–4
29 15 May 1999 Ljudski vrt 5,000 5–0
1999–2000 18 4 March 2000 Ljudski vrt 4,000 0–0 7 19 September 1999 Bežigrad 5,000 2–4
29 29 April 2000 Ljudski vrt 4,000 2–0
2000–01 11 1 October 2000 Ljudski vrt 8,000 1–3 22 31 March 2001 Bežigrad 4,500 1–1
33 27 May 2001 Bežigrad 8,500 1–1
2001–02 10 30 September 2001 Ljudski vrt 5,500 3–2 21 24 February 2002 Bežigrad 5,000 0–1
31 24 April 2002 Ljudski vrt 5,000 5–0
2002–03 14 2 November 2002 Ljudski vrt 5,000 0–3 3 26 July 2002 Bežigrad 5,000 0–1
31 25 May 2003 Bežigrad 5,500 3–3
2003–04 12 18 October 2003 Ljudski vrt 4,000 0–0 1 20 July 2003 Ob Jezeru (N) 2,500 6–1
31 23 May 2004 Ljudski vrt 7,000 0–0 26 24 April 2004 Bežigrad 3,500 1–2
2004–05 3 20 October 2004 Ljudski vrt 3,500 0–3 14 7 November 2004 Bežigrad 4,000 1–0

Note: For five consecutive seasons, from 1998–99 until 2002–03, 1. SNL had a three-round robin and the matches of the final third of the season were determined based on the league position after the first two thirds of the season.
Total: Maribor 20 wins (49%), Olimpija 12 wins (29%), 9 draw (22%).

Yugoslav Cup

The head-to-head matches shows the results of Maribor and Olimpija, when they played in the Yugoslav Cup. The majority of the matches were played as part of the Slovenian Republic Cup and were used as qualifiers for the main event.
Season Round Date Venue Attendance Host Score Winner
1963–64 Final[a] 28 November 1963 Bežigrad 5,000 Olimpija 1–0 Olimpija
1966–67 Final[a] 6 November 1966 Bežigrad 10,000 Olimpija 1–1 (0–5 pen.) Maribor
1967–68 Final[a] 12 November 1967 Bežigrad 8,000 Olimpija 1–2 Maribor
1968–69 Final[a] 28 November 1968 Bežigrad 1,000 Olimpija 3–1 Olimpija
1969–70 Final[a] 18 October 1969 Bežigrad 3,000 Olimpija 1–0 Olimpija
1970–71 Final[a] 29 October 1970 Ljudski vrt 3,500 Maribor 0–0 (1–3 pen.) Olimpija
1971–72 Final[a] 28 October 1971 Bežigrad 3,000 Olimpija 4–1 Olimpija
1972–73 Final[a] 6 December 1972 Ljudski vrt 3,500 Maribor 1–2 Olimpija
1977–78 Round of 32[b] 7 September 1977 Bežigrad 2,500 Olimpija 4–0 Olimpija
1979–80 Round of 32[b] 17 October 1979 Ljudski vrt 4,000 Maribor 0–0 (5–4 pen.) Maribor
1985–86 Final[a] 4 September 1985 Bežigrad 1,000 Olimpija 0–1 Maribor
1987–88 Final[a] 6 August 1987 Bežigrad 1,500 Olimpija 4–0 Olimpija
1988–89 Final[a] 30 July 1988 Ljudski vrt 3,000 Maribor 0–0 (6–5 pen.) Maribor

Series won: Olimpija 8 (62%), Maribor 5 (38%).

Slovenian Cup

The head-to-head matches shows the results of Maribor and Olimpija.[nb 1]
Season Round Leg Date Venue Attendance Host Score Winner
1991–92 Final 24 June 1992 Bežigrad 2,000 Olimpija 0–0 (a.e.t.);
3–4 (pen.)
Maribor
1996–97 Semi-final First 26 March 1997 Ljudski vrt 4,000 Maribor 2–2 Maribor
Second 9 April 1997 Bežigrad 600 Olimpija 0–2
1998–99 Final First 26 May 1999 Bežigrad 2,000 Olimpija 2–3 Maribor
Second 16 June 1999 Ljudski vrt 6,500 Maribor 2–0
2000–01 Quarter-final First 18 October 2000 Ljudski vrt 4,500 Maribor 2–0 Olimpija
Second 25 October 2000 Bežigrad 3,000 Olimpija 3–0
2002–03 Quarter-final First 2 October 2002 Bežigrad 5,200 Olimpija 0–0 Olimpija
Second 23 October 2002 Ljudski vrt 4,000 Maribor 3–4

Series won: Maribor 3 (66.6%), Olimpija 2 (33.3%).

Head-to-head

Statistics

The head-to-head statistics shows the results of NK Maribor and NK Olimpija.[nb 1]
Maribor
wins
Draws Olimpija
wins
Yugoslav League
At Maribor home 5 3 2
At Olimpija home 0 4 6
Neutral field 0 0 0
Total 5 7 8
Yugoslav Cup
At Maribor home 0 3 1
At Olimpija home 2 1 6
Neutral field 0 0 0
Total 2 4 7
1. SNL
At Maribor home 12 5 4
At Olimpija home 8 4 7
Neutral field 0 0 1
Total 20 9 12
Slovenian Cup
At Maribor home 2 1 1
At Olimpija home 2 2 1
Neutral field 0 0 0
Total 4 3 2
Total
83 31 23 29

League ranking

The head-to-head ranking table shows the results of NK Maribor and NK Olimpija, when they played in the same division.
Position 62–631 63–641 64–651 67–68 68–69 69–70 70–71 71–72 84–851 85–862 91–92 92–93 93–94 94–95 95–96 96–97 97–98 98–99 99–00 00–01 01–02 02–03 03–04 04–05
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4
5 5 5
6 6 6 6
7 7 7 7
8
9 9
10 10
11 11
12 12 12
13 13
14
15 15
16 16 16 16
17
18 18
19
20
21

1Second Yugoslav division; 2Third Yugoslav division;Total: Maribor 12 times higher (50%), Olimpija 12 times higher (50%).

References

Notes
  1. ^ a b c Olimpija was established in 1945 and dissolved in 2005, when they played in the 1. SNL.
Refnotes
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