Bob Ingersoll (baseball)

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WITH ARTIST, LONNIE STEWART. >>I WAS THINKING OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND THESE ICONS THAT >>I WAS THINKING OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND THESE ICONS THAT HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND THESE ICONS THAT HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF YOUR WORK, SPECIFICALLY POPE JOHN HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF YOUR WORK, SPECIFICALLY POPE JOHN PAUL, PRINCESS DIANA, MOTHER WORK, SPECIFICALLY POPE JOHN PAUL, PRINCESS DIANA, MOTHER THERESA, AND THEN WE HAD FORMER PAUL, PRINCESS DIANA, MOTHER THERESA, AND THEN WE HAD FORMER PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, AND THERESA, AND THEN WE HAD FORMER PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, AND SARAH FERGUSON. PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, AND SARAH FERGUSON. >>RIGHT. SARAH FERGUSON. >>RIGHT. >>AND FERED NARD MARCOS, AND >>RIGHT. >>AND FERED NARD MARCOS, AND MAHARANA MEWAR. >>AND FERED NARD MARCOS, AND MAHARANA MEWAR. >>RIGHT. MAHARANA MEWAR. >>RIGHT. >>AND HIS MAJESTY KING >>RIGHT. >>AND HIS MAJESTY KING CONSTANTINE. >>AND HIS MAJESTY KING CONSTANTINE. >>RIGHT. CONSTANTINE. >>RIGHT. >>THIS GENTLEMAN, LONNIE STEWART >>RIGHT. >>THIS GENTLEMAN, LONNIE STEWART STARTED IN DE LONG, ILLINOIS, >>THIS GENTLEMAN, LONNIE STEWART STARTED IN DE LONG, ILLINOIS, POPULATION 56. STARTED IN DE LONG, ILLINOIS, POPULATION 56. >>RIGHT. POPULATION 56. >>RIGHT. IT WAS A TINY LITTLE TOWN! >>RIGHT. IT WAS A TINY LITTLE TOWN! (LAUGHING). IT WAS A TINY LITTLE TOWN! (LAUGHING). >>WAS THERE A STOPLIGHT? (LAUGHING). >>WAS THERE A STOPLIGHT? >> NO, THERE WERE NO STOPLIGHTS. >>WAS THERE A STOPLIGHT? >> NO, THERE WERE NO STOPLIGHTS. BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A LITTLE >> NO, THERE WERE NO STOPLIGHTS. BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A LITTLE VILLAGE. BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A LITTLE VILLAGE. THERE WAS A LITTLE STORE, A GAS VILLAGE. THERE WAS A LITTLE STORE, A GAS STATION AND AN OLD GENERAL STORE THERE WAS A LITTLE STORE, A GAS STATION AND AN OLD GENERAL STORE THAT WAS, OF COURSE, NO LONGER STATION AND AN OLD GENERAL STORE THAT WAS, OF COURSE, NO LONGER IN USE. THAT WAS, OF COURSE, NO LONGER IN USE. WE WOULD GET INTO THE GENERAL IN USE. WE WOULD GET INTO THE GENERAL STORE, ALL THE CHILDREN IN THE WE WOULD GET INTO THE GENERAL STORE, ALL THE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBOR HOOKED AND, OF COURSE, STORE, ALL THE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBOR HOOKED AND, OF COURSE, ALL THE THINGS WERE ON THE NEIGHBOR HOOKED AND, OF COURSE, ALL THE THINGS WERE ON THE SHELF! ALL THE THINGS WERE ON THE SHELF! >>IN THE GENERAL STORE. SHELF! >>IN THE GENERAL STORE. >>THE MEETING PLACE WAS THE >>IN THE GENERAL STORE. >>THE MEETING PLACE WAS THE GENERAL STORE? >>THE MEETING PLACE WAS THE GENERAL STORE? >> RIGHT. GENERAL STORE? >> RIGHT. THERE WAS A VERY LARGE >> RIGHT. THERE WAS A VERY LARGE CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH ON CORNER. THERE WAS A VERY LARGE CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH ON CORNER. NONE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH ON CORNER. NONE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE THERE ANY LONGER, OF COURSE. NONE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE THERE ANY LONGER, OF COURSE. IT HAS BEEN AROUND 50 YEARS THERE ANY LONGER, OF COURSE. IT HAS BEEN AROUND 50 YEARS SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE! IT HAS BEEN AROUND 50 YEARS SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE! (LAUGHING) BUT I DO REMEMBER IT SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE! (LAUGHING) BUT I DO REMEMBER IT VERY VIVIDLY, AND I REMEMBER (LAUGHING) BUT I DO REMEMBER IT VERY VIVIDLY, AND I REMEMBER WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE LIVED VERY VIVIDLY, AND I REMEMBER WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE LIVED THERE. WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE LIVED THERE. >>YOUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO THERE. >>YOUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO OILS AT AGE NINE ABOUT? >>YOUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO OILS AT AGE NINE ABOUT? >> NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY EARLIER. OILS AT AGE NINE ABOUT? >> NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY EARLIER. I THINK ABOUT SEVEN YEARS OF >> NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY EARLIER. I THINK ABOUT SEVEN YEARS OF AGE. I THINK ABOUT SEVEN YEARS OF AGE. SEVEN YEARS? AGE. SEVEN YEARS? >> RIGHT I WAS ABOUT SEVEN. SEVEN YEARS? >> RIGHT I WAS ABOUT SEVEN. >>HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? >> RIGHT I WAS ABOUT SEVEN. >>HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? >> MY PARENTS REALIZED I HAD A >>HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? >> MY PARENTS REALIZED I HAD A SKILL IN DRAWING, AND THERE >> MY PARENTS REALIZED I HAD A SKILL IN DRAWING, AND THERE WASN'T AN ART CURRICULUM WERE I SKILL IN DRAWING, AND THERE WASN'T AN ART CURRICULUM WERE I WAS RAISED. WASN'T AN ART CURRICULUM WERE I WAS RAISED. THEY ACTUALLY FOUND AN ART WAS RAISED. THEY ACTUALLY FOUND AN ART TEACHER FOR ME. THEY ACTUALLY FOUND AN ART TEACHER FOR ME. I STARTED STUDYING. TEACHER FOR ME. I STARTED STUDYING. THEY GAVE ME A SET OF OILS, AND I STARTED STUDYING. THEY GAVE ME A SET OF OILS, AND I STARTED IN PORE TRI TURE THEY GAVE ME A SET OF OILS, AND I STARTED IN PORE TRI TURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I NATURALLY I STARTED IN PORE TRI TURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I NATURALLY DID AS A CHILD. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I NATURALLY DID AS A CHILD. >>WHEN WAS YOUR FIRST DID AS A CHILD. >>WHEN WAS YOUR FIRST COMMISSION? >>WHEN WAS YOUR FIRST COMMISSION? >> AT THE AGE OF NINE. COMMISSION? >> AT THE AGE OF NINE. I HAD A COMMISSION. >> AT THE AGE OF NINE. I HAD A COMMISSION. >>WHAT WAS IT. I HAD A COMMISSION. >>WHAT WAS IT. >>A FAMILY PORTRAITS OF THE >>WHAT WAS IT. >>A FAMILY PORTRAITS OF THE FAMILY. >>A FAMILY PORTRAITS OF THE FAMILY. THAT WAS MY FIRST COMMISSION. FAMILY. THAT WAS MY FIRST COMMISSION. THOSE PORTRAITS STILL EXIST. THAT WAS MY FIRST COMMISSION. THOSE PORTRAITS STILL EXIST. >>AT AGE NINE? THOSE PORTRAITS STILL EXIST. >>AT AGE NINE? >> RIGHT. >>AT AGE NINE? >> RIGHT. >>HOUR DEVOTED VERSUS >> RIGHT. >>HOUR DEVOTED VERSUS BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BASEBALL? >>HOUR DEVOTED VERSUS BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BASEBALL? IVES I WAS TOTALLY DEVOTE TODAY BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BASEBALL? IVES I WAS TOTALLY DEVOTE TODAY ART ALL THROUGH MY ELEMENTARY IVES I WAS TOTALLY DEVOTE TODAY ART ALL THROUGH MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SYSTEM. ART ALL THROUGH MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SYSTEM. I WAS NOT AN ATHLETE. SCHOOL SYSTEM. I WAS NOT AN ATHLETE. >>IN RETROSPECT, WHAT OTHER I WAS NOT AN ATHLETE. >>IN RETROSPECT, WHAT OTHER CREATIVE EXPRESSIONS DID YOU >>IN RETROSPECT, WHAT OTHER CREATIVE EXPRESSIONS DID YOU HAVE? CREATIVE EXPRESSIONS DID YOU HAVE? DID YOU HAVE AT A YOUNG PERSON. HAVE? DID YOU HAVE AT A YOUNG PERSON. >>WHAT OTHER CREATIVE DID YOU HAVE AT A YOUNG PERSON. >>WHAT OTHER CREATIVE EXPRESSIONS I HAD AS A YOUNG >>WHAT OTHER CREATIVE EXPRESSIONS I HAD AS A YOUNG PERSON? EXPRESSIONS I HAD AS A YOUNG PERSON? YES, DESIGNING THINGS. PERSON? YES, DESIGNING THINGS. >>I WAS ALWAYS DESIGNING THINGS, YES, DESIGNING THINGS. >>I WAS ALWAYS DESIGNING THINGS, MAKING THINGS OUT OF BOXES AND >>I WAS ALWAYS DESIGNING THINGS, MAKING THINGS OUT OF BOXES AND FABRIC. MAKING THINGS OUT OF BOXES AND FABRIC. I LIKED FABRIC. FABRIC. I LIKED FABRIC. I LIKED TEXTURES. I LIKED FABRIC. I LIKED TEXTURES. I WILL WORK WITH PAPER MACHE. I LIKED TEXTURES. I WILL WORK WITH PAPER MACHE. I THINK I HAD INNATE SENSE OF I WILL WORK WITH PAPER MACHE. I THINK I HAD INNATE SENSE OF SCULPTURE AT A VERY EARLY AGE I THINK I HAD INNATE SENSE OF SCULPTURE AT A VERY EARLY AGE ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T WORK WITH SCULPTURE AT A VERY EARLY AGE ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T WORK WITH THAT. ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T WORK WITH THAT. I WAS MORE TWO DIMENSIONAL UNTIL THAT. I WAS MORE TWO DIMENSIONAL UNTIL WELL OUT OF MY COLLEGE YEARS. I WAS MORE TWO DIMENSIONAL UNTIL WELL OUT OF MY COLLEGE YEARS. THEN I JUST STARTED TO WORK WITH WELL OUT OF MY COLLEGE YEARS. THEN I JUST STARTED TO WORK WITH THREE DIMENSION, AND IT WAS THEN I JUST STARTED TO WORK WITH THREE DIMENSION, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. THREE DIMENSION, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS WONDERFUL. WONDERFUL. IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS LIKE AN E PHIL TIFFANY OR IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS LIKE AN E PHIL TIFFANY OR IS SOMETHING. IT WAS LIKE AN E PHIL TIFFANY OR IS SOMETHING. -- EPIPHANY, OR SOMETHING I WAS IN MY OLD WORLD. >>THREE STUDIOS, CHARLESTON, MY OLD WORLD. >>THREE STUDIOS, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PEORIA, AND >>THREE STUDIOS, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PEORIA, AND KENSINGTON STREET. SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PEORIA, AND KENSINGTON STREET. >>RIGHT, KENSINGTON CHURCH KENSINGTON STREET. >>RIGHT, KENSINGTON CHURCH STREET, I WAS THERE SIX OR SEVEN >>RIGHT, KENSINGTON CHURCH STREET, I WAS THERE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. STREET, I WAS THERE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. >>YOUR INFLUENCES, LET'S TALK YEARS. >>YOUR INFLUENCES, LET'S TALK ABOUT ARTISTICALLY. >>YOUR INFLUENCES, LET'S TALK ABOUT ARTISTICALLY. >>I HAVE HAD VERY GOOD MENTORS ABOUT ARTISTICALLY. >>I HAVE HAD VERY GOOD MENTORS THROUGHOUT MY LIFE ONE BEING >>I HAVE HAD VERY GOOD MENTORS THROUGHOUT MY LIFE ONE BEING MARY JO OLSTROM, A WONDERFUL THROUGHOUT MY LIFE ONE BEING MARY JO OLSTROM, A WONDERFUL MENTOR. MARY JO OLSTROM, A WONDERFUL MENTOR. >>FROM GALESBURG. MENTOR. >>FROM GALESBURG. >>GALESBURG, AND SHE ACTUALLY >>FROM GALESBURG. >>GALESBURG, AND SHE ACTUALLY LIVED IN LONDON. >>GALESBURG, AND SHE ACTUALLY LIVED IN LONDON. SHE INTRODUCED TO MANY PEOPLE? LIVED IN LONDON. SHE INTRODUCED TO MANY PEOPLE? >> INTRODUCED ME TO A LOT OF SHE INTRODUCED TO MANY PEOPLE? >> INTRODUCED ME TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LONDON. >> INTRODUCED ME TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LONDON. >>ROYALTY IS? PEOPLE IN LONDON. >>ROYALTY IS? >> ROYALTY. >>ROYALTY IS? >> ROYALTY. SHE INTRODUCED ME TO THE >> ROYALTY. SHE INTRODUCED ME TO THE FAMILIES OF GREEK IN THE BELL SHE INTRODUCED ME TO THE FAMILIES OF GREEK IN THE BELL GRAVIA AREA. FAMILIES OF GREEK IN THE BELL GRAVIA AREA. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL GRAVIA AREA. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION. I HAD SEVERAL COMMISSIONS WITH INTRODUCTION. I HAD SEVERAL COMMISSIONS WITH THEM, AND BECAUSE OF UNVEILING I HAD SEVERAL COMMISSIONS WITH THEM, AND BECAUSE OF UNVEILING PARTIES, I WOULD MEET MEMBERS OF THEM, AND BECAUSE OF UNVEILING PARTIES, I WOULD MEET MEMBERS OF ROYALTY AND CONSTANTINE, OF PARTIES, I WOULD MEET MEMBERS OF ROYALTY AND CONSTANTINE, OF DEGREES, AND THE GREEK FAMILIES ROYALTY AND CONSTANTINE, OF DEGREES, AND THE GREEK FAMILIES WOULD SUPPORT HIM AND STILL DO. DEGREES, AND THE GREEK FAMILIES WOULD SUPPORT HIM AND STILL DO. THROUGH THAT INTRODUCTION, I WAS WOULD SUPPORT HIM AND STILL DO. THROUGH THAT INTRODUCTION, I WAS COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HIM AND THROUGH THAT INTRODUCTION, I WAS COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HIM AND HIS WIFE GREEN QUEEN ANNE MARIE, COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HIM AND HIS WIFE GREEN QUEEN ANNE MARIE, ANDROLOGY FOR CONSTANTINE POL HIS WIFE GREEN QUEEN ANNE MARIE, ANDROLOGY FOR CONSTANTINE POL LOW MATCH. ANDROLOGY FOR CONSTANTINE POL LOW MATCH. THAT PAINTING WAS AUTHORIZED LOW MATCH. THAT PAINTING WAS AUTHORIZED OFF, AND FROM THERE, I MET I THAT PAINTING WAS AUTHORIZED OFF, AND FROM THERE, I MET I DON'T KNOW SEVERAL ROYALS. OFF, AND FROM THERE, I MET I DON'T KNOW SEVERAL ROYALS. IT JUST WENT ON. DON'T KNOW SEVERAL ROYALS. IT JUST WENT ON. >>POPE JOHN PAUL THE II. IT JUST WENT ON. >>POPE JOHN PAUL THE II. >>POPE JOHN PAUL II WAS PAINTED >>POPE JOHN PAUL THE II. >>POPE JOHN PAUL II WAS PAINTED ORIGINALLY, INITIALLY AS A COLOR >>POPE JOHN PAUL II WAS PAINTED ORIGINALLY, INITIALLY AS A COLOR FOR A VIDEO TAPE. ORIGINALLY, INITIALLY AS A COLOR FOR A VIDEO TAPE. THE PAINTING WAS DISCOVERED AND FOR A VIDEO TAPE. THE PAINTING WAS DISCOVERED AND PURCHASED BY A LAY, CATHOLIC LAY THE PAINTING WAS DISCOVERED AND PURCHASED BY A LAY, CATHOLIC LAY ORGANIZATION WHO LATER PURCHASED BY A LAY, CATHOLIC LAY ORGANIZATION WHO LATER COMMISSIONED ME TO PAINT MOTHER ORGANIZATION WHO LATER COMMISSIONED ME TO PAINT MOTHER THERESA AND FLEW ME TO CALCUTTA COMMISSIONED ME TO PAINT MOTHER THERESA AND FLEW ME TO CALCUTTA TO PAINT HER. THERESA AND FLEW ME TO CALCUTTA TO PAINT HER. >>WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU? TO PAINT HER. >>WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU? >> HE PRAYED FOR ME. >>WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU? >> HE PRAYED FOR ME. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE >> HE PRAYED FOR ME. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE WANTED TO -- I WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE WANTED TO -- I AM NOT CATHOLIC, AND THE, OF PROJECT, AND HE WANTED TO -- I AM NOT CATHOLIC, AND THE, OF COURSE, THE MAIN THING THAT POPE AM NOT CATHOLIC, AND THE, OF COURSE, THE MAIN THING THAT POPE JOHN PAUL AND MOTHER THERESA COURSE, THE MAIN THING THAT POPE JOHN PAUL AND MOTHER THERESA BOTH DID OR TRIED TO DO WAS JOHN PAUL AND MOTHER THERESA BOTH DID OR TRIED TO DO WAS CONVERT ME TO CATHOLICISM WHICH BOTH DID OR TRIED TO DO WAS CONVERT ME TO CATHOLICISM WHICH I HAVE NEVER DONE. CONVERT ME TO CATHOLICISM WHICH I HAVE NEVER DONE. MOTHER TREE IS SA WAS I HAVE NEVER DONE. MOTHER TREE IS SA WAS OUTSTANDING. MOTHER TREE IS SA WAS OUTSTANDING. >>GETTING BACK TO POPE JOHN OUTSTANDING. >>GETTING BACK TO POPE JOHN PAUL, WHAT WAS HE LIKE, >>GETTING BACK TO POPE JOHN PAUL, WHAT WAS HE LIKE, PHYSICALLY. PAUL, WHAT WAS HE LIKE, PHYSICALLY. >>HE WAS FRAIL. PHYSICALLY. >>HE WAS FRAIL. >>HE WAS DRAMA STUDENT. >>HE WAS FRAIL. >>HE WAS DRAMA STUDENT. >>HE WAS, RIGHT. >>HE WAS DRAMA STUDENT. >>HE WAS, RIGHT. >>AND FIVE BOOKS, YOUNGEST OF >>HE WAS, RIGHT. >>AND FIVE BOOKS, YOUNGEST OF THREE CHILDREN. >>AND FIVE BOOKS, YOUNGEST OF THREE CHILDREN. >>THAT'S RIGHT. THREE CHILDREN. >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>WAS IT "HI, HOW ARE YOU >>THAT'S RIGHT. >>WAS IT "HI, HOW ARE YOU DOING?" >>WAS IT "HI, HOW ARE YOU DOING?" WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO YOU? DOING?" WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO YOU? >> HE WAS VERY FRIENDLY, AND WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO YOU? >> HE WAS VERY FRIENDLY, AND ACTUALLY NOT THAT INTIMATE, NOT >> HE WAS VERY FRIENDLY, AND ACTUALLY NOT THAT INTIMATE, NOT THAT INTIMATE, BUT TALKING, AS I ACTUALLY NOT THAT INTIMATE, NOT THAT INTIMATE, BUT TALKING, AS I SAID ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE THAT INTIMATE, BUT TALKING, AS I SAID ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE GAVE ME A BEAUTIFUL MIN TURE SAID ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE GAVE ME A BEAUTIFUL MIN TURE CROSS ON A ROSARY WHICH WAS GAVE ME A BEAUTIFUL MIN TURE CROSS ON A ROSARY WHICH WAS MODELED AFTER THE ONE HE HOLDS CROSS ON A ROSARY WHICH WAS MODELED AFTER THE ONE HE HOLDS AND CARRIES, HE HELD AND MODELED AFTER THE ONE HE HOLDS AND CARRIES, HE HELD AND CARRIED. AND CARRIES, HE HELD AND CARRIED. DID HE GIVE YOU ANY INTELLECTUAL CARRIED. DID HE GIVE YOU ANY INTELLECTUAL GIFTS? DID HE GIVE YOU ANY INTELLECTUAL GIFTS? DID YOU TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM GIFTS? DID YOU TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU STILL DID YOU TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU STILL REMEMBER SO VIVIDLY THIS. THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU STILL REMEMBER SO VIVIDLY THIS. >>IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. REMEMBER SO VIVIDLY THIS. >>IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. I WAS SEATED NEXT TO PETER >>IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. I WAS SEATED NEXT TO PETER YOUSTENOF, AND HIS COMMENTS WERE I WAS SEATED NEXT TO PETER YOUSTENOF, AND HIS COMMENTS WERE AMAZING. YOUSTENOF, AND HIS COMMENTS WERE AMAZING. >>FOR EXAMPLE? AMAZING. >>FOR EXAMPLE? >> HE WAS COMMENTING ON THE >>FOR EXAMPLE? >> HE WAS COMMENTING ON THE FACT, WELL, OF COURSE, WE WERE >> HE WAS COMMENTING ON THE FACT, WELL, OF COURSE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POPE'S FRAILTY FACT, WELL, OF COURSE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POPE'S FRAILTY AND HOW HE HAD CHANGED SO TALKING ABOUT THE POPE'S FRAILTY AND HOW HE HAD CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE AND HOW HE HAD CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS PRIOR TO THAT DRASTICALLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS PRIOR TO THAT EXPERIENCE. OF YEARS PRIOR TO THAT EXPERIENCE. AND THERE WERE MANY CARDINALS EXPERIENCE. AND THERE WERE MANY CARDINALS SURROUNDING THE POPE WHEN I WAS AND THERE WERE MANY CARDINALS SURROUNDING THE POPE WHEN I WAS DRAWING HIM. SURROUNDING THE POPE WHEN I WAS DRAWING HIM. AND A FEW OF THEM WERE FALLING DRAWING HIM. AND A FEW OF THEM WERE FALLING ASLEEP (LAUGHING) AND IT ADDED A AND A FEW OF THEM WERE FALLING ASLEEP (LAUGHING) AND IT ADDED A LITTLE BIT OF HUMOR. ASLEEP (LAUGHING) AND IT ADDED A LITTLE BIT OF HUMOR. >>MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON? LITTLE BIT OF HUMOR. >>MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON? >> THIS WAS IN THE AFTER NAN. >>MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON? >> THIS WAS IN THE AFTER NAN. >>LATE AFTERNOON? >> THIS WAS IN THE AFTER NAN. >>LATE AFTERNOON? >> NO, NOT REALLYIST (LAUGHING). >>LATE AFTERNOON? >> NO, NOT REALLYIST (LAUGHING). >>I AM TRYING TO BE NICE. >> NO, NOT REALLYIST (LAUGHING). >>I AM TRYING TO BE NICE. AFTER DINNER, AFTER LUNCH. >>I AM TRYING TO BE NICE. AFTER DINNER, AFTER LUNCH. >> I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE AFTER DINNER, AFTER LUNCH. >> I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE TIME TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. >> I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE TIME TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. >>MOTHER TREE IS SA? TIME TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. >>MOTHER TREE IS SA? >> MOTHER THERESA WAS ABSOLUTELY >>MOTHER TREE IS SA? >> MOTHER THERESA WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. >> MOTHER THERESA WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. I MET HER IN THE HOSPITAL. WONDERFUL. I MET HER IN THE HOSPITAL. SHE WAS -- SHE ACTUALLY HAD A I MET HER IN THE HOSPITAL. SHE WAS -- SHE ACTUALLY HAD A HEART ATTACK AS I WAS FLYING SHE WAS -- SHE ACTUALLY HAD A HEART ATTACK AS I WAS FLYING OVER TO MEET HER. HEART ATTACK AS I WAS FLYING OVER TO MEET HER. AND SHE DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING OVER TO MEET HER. AND SHE DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE MOTHER THERESA TO ME AND SHE DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE MOTHER THERESA TO ME BECAUSE SHE WAS HYDRATED FOR ONE LIKE MOTHER THERESA TO ME BECAUSE SHE WAS HYDRATED FOR ONE THING. BECAUSE SHE WAS HYDRATED FOR ONE THING. SHE REALLY HAD NO IS SARI ON. THING. SHE REALLY HAD NO IS SARI ON. SHE HAD A LACE PIECE ON HER SHE REALLY HAD NO IS SARI ON. SHE HAD A LACE PIECE ON HER HEAD. SHE HAD A LACE PIECE ON HER HEAD. HER FINGERS LOOKED VERY PLUM. HEAD. HER FINGERS LOOKED VERY PLUM. THEY LOOKED VERY FULL AND DRIED HER FINGERS LOOKED VERY PLUM. THEY LOOKED VERY FULL AND DRIED UP, SHRIVELED WORKING HAINS OF THEY LOOKED VERY FULL AND DRIED UP, SHRIVELED WORKING HAINS OF MOTHER THERESA I WAS SO USED TO UP, SHRIVELED WORKING HAINS OF MOTHER THERESA I WAS SO USED TO SEEING IN PHOTOGRAPHS AND HER MOTHER THERESA I WAS SO USED TO SEEING IN PHOTOGRAPHS AND HER FACE THE SAME. SEEING IN PHOTOGRAPHS AND HER FACE THE SAME. IT WAS AMAZING TO ME TO SEE HER FACE THE SAME. IT WAS AMAZING TO ME TO SEE HER THAT WAY. IT WAS AMAZING TO ME TO SEE HER THAT WAY. SHE HAD A LOT OF HUMOR. THAT WAY. SHE HAD A LOT OF HUMOR. HER SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR WHO I WAS SHE HAD A LOT OF HUMOR. HER SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR WHO I WAS WITH TOLD HER THAT, AND SHE WAS HER SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR WHO I WAS WITH TOLD HER THAT, AND SHE WAS REALLY IN GREAT SHAPE BY THE WITH TOLD HER THAT, AND SHE WAS REALLY IN GREAT SHAPE BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE. REALLY IN GREAT SHAPE BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE. SHE WASN'T DYING YOU KNOW OR TIME WE GOT THERE. SHE WASN'T DYING YOU KNOW OR ANYTHING. SHE WASN'T DYING YOU KNOW OR ANYTHING. SHE WAS READY TO GET OUT! ANYTHING. SHE WAS READY TO GET OUT! HE SAID, "MOTHER, WE ARE GOING SHE WAS READY TO GET OUT! HE SAID, "MOTHER, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE YOU TO A DENTIST WHEN HE SAID, "MOTHER, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE YOU TO A DENTIST WHEN YOU GET OUT OF HERE. TO TAKE YOU TO A DENTIST WHEN YOU GET OUT OF HERE. YOU NEED TO HAVE OUR TEETH YOU GET OUT OF HERE. YOU NEED TO HAVE OUR TEETH FIXED." YOU NEED TO HAVE OUR TEETH FIXED." SHE SAID, "FATHER, I AM GETTING FIXED." SHE SAID, "FATHER, I AM GETTING READY TO DIE. SHE SAID, "FATHER, I AM GETTING READY TO DIE. I AM GOING TO HEAVEN TO LIVE READY TO DIE. I AM GOING TO HEAVEN TO LIVE WITH JESUS, YOU THINK HE IS I AM GOING TO HEAVEN TO LIVE WITH JESUS, YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO LOOK IN MY MOUTH!" WITH JESUS, YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO LOOK IN MY MOUTH!" IT WAS A GREAT LINE. GOING TO LOOK IN MY MOUTH!" IT WAS A GREAT LINE. SHE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. IT WAS A GREAT LINE. SHE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. >>SHE IS VERY SMALL? SHE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. >>SHE IS VERY SMALL? STATURE. >>SHE IS VERY SMALL? STATURE. >>VERY TINY. BUT HER ARMS ARE STATURE. >>VERY TINY. BUT HER ARMS ARE LONG. >>VERY TINY. BUT HER ARMS ARE LONG. WHEN SHE EXTENDED HER ARM TO ME, LONG. WHEN SHE EXTENDED HER ARM TO ME, IT WAS LONG. WHEN SHE EXTENDED HER ARM TO ME, IT WAS LONG. SHE WAS ONLY FOUR FEET WHEN SHE IT WAS LONG. SHE WAS ONLY FOUR FEET WHEN SHE STOOD UP. SHE WAS ONLY FOUR FEET WHEN SHE STOOD UP. >>AND HOW LONG -- IT WAS A STOOD UP. >>AND HOW LONG -- IT WAS A SERIES OF SITTINGS OR ONE IS >>AND HOW LONG -- IT WAS A SERIES OF SITTINGS OR ONE IS SITTING? SERIES OF SITTINGS OR ONE IS SITTING? >> ACTUALLY, THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHS SITTING? >> ACTUALLY, THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHS AND JUST TALKING WITH HER AND >> ACTUALLY, THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHS AND JUST TALKING WITH HER AND MEETING WITH HER. AND JUST TALKING WITH HER AND MEETING WITH HER. >>I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THIS IS MEETING WITH HER. >>I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THIS IS IN CALCUTTA. >>I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THIS IS IN CALCUTTA. >>THIS WAS IN CALCUTTA. IN CALCUTTA. >>THIS WAS IN CALCUTTA. ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY >>THIS WAS IN CALCUTTA. ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY TREASURE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY TREASURE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE WITH MOTHER THERESA, I COULD SEE TREASURE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE WITH MOTHER THERESA, I COULD SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT SHE HAD DONE AND WITH MOTHER THERESA, I COULD SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT SHE HAD DONE AND THE FRUITS OF HER WORK. FIRSTHAND WHAT SHE HAD DONE AND THE FRUITS OF HER WORK. -- OF HER LABOR. THE FRUITS OF HER WORK. -- OF HER LABOR. SHE STARTED WITH THE LEPOR -- OF HER LABOR. SHE STARTED WITH THE LEPOR COLONIES. SHE STARTED WITH THE LEPOR COLONIES. IT WAS A 14 PERSON SPACE IN AN COLONIES. IT WAS A 14 PERSON SPACE IN AN OLD BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT WAS A 14 PERSON SPACE IN AN OLD BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE OF CALCUTTA. OLD BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE OF CALCUTTA. IT JUST BALLOONED INTO THIS CALCUTTA. IT JUST BALLOONED INTO THIS INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE FACILITY IT JUST BALLOONED INTO THIS INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE FACILITY FOR THESE LEPORS. INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE FACILITY FOR THESE LEPORS. THEY MANAGED THEIR OWN LIVES FOR THESE LEPORS. THEY MANAGED THEIR OWN LIVES THERE, AND THEY ARE JUST GIVEN THEY MANAGED THEIR OWN LIVES THERE, AND THEY ARE JUST GIVEN THE RESOURCES, AND THEY TAKE THERE, AND THEY ARE JUST GIVEN THE RESOURCES, AND THEY TAKE THEM AND THEY PLOW THEIR OWN THE RESOURCES, AND THEY TAKE THEM AND THEY PLOW THEIR OWN FIELDS. THEM AND THEY PLOW THEIR OWN FIELDS. THEY DESIGN THEIR OWN POOLS, FIELDS. THEY DESIGN THEIR OWN POOLS, THEIR BUILDINGS, TERRACES, AND THEY DESIGN THEIR OWN POOLS, THEIR BUILDINGS, TERRACES, AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL THEIR BUILDINGS, TERRACES, AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PLACE. IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PLACE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. PLACE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. SHE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. SHE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN 1979, ALL SORTS OF AWARDS. SHE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN 1979, ALL SORTS OF AWARDS. DID YOU VIEW HER AS GIVING YOU 1979, ALL SORTS OF AWARDS. DID YOU VIEW HER AS GIVING YOU ANY INTELLECTUAL GIFT. DID YOU VIEW HER AS GIVING YOU ANY INTELLECTUAL GIFT. >>ABSOLUTELY. ANY INTELLECTUAL GIFT. >>ABSOLUTELY. EVERYTHING I SAW OF MOTHER TREE >>ABSOLUTELY. EVERYTHING I SAW OF MOTHER TREE IS SA WAS A GIFT. EVERYTHING I SAW OF MOTHER TREE IS SA WAS A GIFT. LEPROSORIUM, AND I MEAN JUST HER IS SA WAS A GIFT. LEPROSORIUM, AND I MEAN JUST HER WORK ALONE IMPRESSED YOU TO THE LEPROSORIUM, AND I MEAN JUST HER WORK ALONE IMPRESSED YOU TO THE POINT OF WOW, THIS WOMAN HAS WORK ALONE IMPRESSED YOU TO THE POINT OF WOW, THIS WOMAN HAS JUST DONE THIS FROM NOTHING. POINT OF WOW, THIS WOMAN HAS JUST DONE THIS FROM NOTHING. IT WAS HER FAITH, AND YET SHE JUST DONE THIS FROM NOTHING. IT WAS HER FAITH, AND YET SHE QUESTIONED HER FAITH. IT WAS HER FAITH, AND YET SHE QUESTIONED HER FAITH. >>SHE QUESTIONED HER FAITH? QUESTIONED HER FAITH. >>SHE QUESTIONED HER FAITH? >> RIGHT. >>SHE QUESTIONED HER FAITH? >> RIGHT. >>MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. >> RIGHT. >>MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. MOTHER THERESA IS QUESTIONING >>MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. MOTHER THERESA IS QUESTIONING HER TATE? MOTHER THERESA IS QUESTIONING HER TATE? >> HER OWN FAITH, RIGHT. HER TATE? >> HER OWN FAITH, RIGHT. >>DID SHE EXPRESS THAT TO YOU? >> HER OWN FAITH, RIGHT. >>DID SHE EXPRESS THAT TO YOU? >> SHE DID NOT EXPRESSED IT TO >>DID SHE EXPRESS THAT TO YOU? >> SHE DID NOT EXPRESSED IT TO ME, BUT SHE EXPRESSED IT IN >> SHE DID NOT EXPRESSED IT TO ME, BUT SHE EXPRESSED IT IN WRITING BEFORE SHE DIED. ME, BUT SHE EXPRESSED IT IN WRITING BEFORE SHE DIED. >>WAS SHE ARTICULATE? WRITING BEFORE SHE DIED. >>WAS SHE ARTICULATE? >> SHE WAS VERY ARTICULATE. >>WAS SHE ARTICULATE? >> SHE WAS VERY ARTICULATE. SHE WAS VERY -- VERY DOMINANT I >> SHE WAS VERY ARTICULATE. SHE WAS VERY -- VERY DOMINANT I THINK YOU CAN SAY THIS. TINY SHE WAS VERY -- VERY DOMINANT I THINK YOU CAN SAY THIS. TINY LITTLE WOMAN, NO ONE WOULD SAY THINK YOU CAN SAY THIS. TINY LITTLE WOMAN, NO ONE WOULD SAY NO TO MOTHER THERESA. LITTLE WOMAN, NO ONE WOULD SAY NO TO MOTHER THERESA. MAYBE IT WAS THE ALBANIAN BLOOD, NO TO MOTHER THERESA. MAYBE IT WAS THE ALBANIAN BLOOD, I DON'T KNOW! MAYBE IT WAS THE ALBANIAN BLOOD, I DON'T KNOW! SHE WAS A REMARKABLE LADY. I DON'T KNOW! SHE WAS A REMARKABLE LADY. SHE DID SO MUCH FOR THE POOR. SHE WAS A REMARKABLE LADY. SHE DID SO MUCH FOR THE POOR. I MEAN WHEN YOU WALKED INTO THE SHE DID SO MUCH FOR THE POOR. I MEAN WHEN YOU WALKED INTO THE HOUSE OF DESTITUTE AND DYING, I MEAN WHEN YOU WALKED INTO THE HOUSE OF DESTITUTE AND DYING, THEY WOULD PICK BODIES UP WHO HOUSE OF DESTITUTE AND DYING, THEY WOULD PICK BODIES UP WHO ARE NOT YET DEAD OFF THE STREET, THEY WOULD PICK BODIES UP WHO ARE NOT YET DEAD OFF THE STREET, AND THEY WOULD CLEAN THEM AND ARE NOT YET DEAD OFF THE STREET, AND THEY WOULD CLEAN THEM AND CLEAN THE MAGGOTS OUT OF THEIR AND THEY WOULD CLEAN THEM AND CLEAN THE MAGGOTS OUT OF THEIR KNEES AND WASH THEM AND MAKE CLEAN THE MAGGOTS OUT OF THEIR KNEES AND WASH THEM AND MAKE THEM FEEL LOVED SO SO THEY DIED KNEES AND WASH THEM AND MAKE THEM FEEL LOVED SO SO THEY DIED WITH SOMEONE THERE TOUCHING THEM FEEL LOVED SO SO THEY DIED WITH SOMEONE THERE TOUCHING THEM, HOLDING THEM. WITH SOMEONE THERE TOUCHING THEM, HOLDING THEM. THAT WAS A VERY PROFOUND THING. THEM, HOLDING THEM. THAT WAS A VERY PROFOUND THING. THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING. THAT WAS A VERY PROFOUND THING. THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING. >>PRINCESS DIANA. THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING. >>PRINCESS DIANA. >>OH, IT WAS GREAT SENSE OF >>PRINCESS DIANA. >>OH, IT WAS GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, >>OH, IT WAS GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL SHY GIRL I MET HER HUMOR, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL SHY GIRL I MET HER ONLY TWO YEARS INTO THEIR WONDERFUL SHY GIRL I MET HER ONLY TWO YEARS INTO THEIR MARRIAGE. ONLY TWO YEARS INTO THEIR MARRIAGE. I WAS COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HER MARRIAGE. I WAS COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HER THROUGH MAN BY THE NAME OF BUDDY I WAS COMMISSIONED TO PAINT HER THROUGH MAN BY THE NAME OF BUDDY CAPPS IN WASHINGTON D.C. WHO WAS THROUGH MAN BY THE NAME OF BUDDY CAPPS IN WASHINGTON D.C. WHO WAS ON THE BOARD WITH THE WASHINGTON CAPPS IN WASHINGTON D.C. WHO WAS ON THE BOARD WITH THE WASHINGTON ANN OPERA, AND THE PAINTING WAS ON THE BOARD WITH THE WASHINGTON ANN OPERA, AND THE PAINTING WAS A GIFT TO THE BRITISH EMBASSY, ANN OPERA, AND THE PAINTING WAS A GIFT TO THE BRITISH EMBASSY, LORD AND LADY WRIGHT. A GIFT TO THE BRITISH EMBASSY, LORD AND LADY WRIGHT. I PAINTED IT FOR THEM, AND IT LORD AND LADY WRIGHT. I PAINTED IT FOR THEM, AND IT WAS UNVEILED AT THE BRITISH I PAINTED IT FOR THEM, AND IT WAS UNVEILED AT THE BRITISH EMBASSY AND PRINCESS DI -- WAS UNVEILED AT THE BRITISH EMBASSY AND PRINCESS DI -- >>WHAT WAS SHE LIKE, LONNIE? EMBASSY AND PRINCESS DI -- >>WHAT WAS SHE LIKE, LONNIE? >> LIKE I SAID, GREAT FUN? >>WHAT WAS SHE LIKE, LONNIE? >> LIKE I SAID, GREAT FUN? >> ENGAGING IS? >> LIKE I SAID, GREAT FUN? >> ENGAGING IS? >> AND VERY PERSONAL, VERY >> ENGAGING IS? >> AND VERY PERSONAL, VERY PERSONAL. >> AND VERY PERSONAL, VERY PERSONAL. YOU COULD TELL SHE WAS -- SHE PERSONAL. YOU COULD TELL SHE WAS -- SHE WASN'T FLASHY. YOU COULD TELL SHE WAS -- SHE WASN'T FLASHY. SHE DIDN'T LIKE TO BE IN THE WASN'T FLASHY. SHE DIDN'T LIKE TO BE IN THE LIMELIGHT. SHE JUST WANTED TO SHE DIDN'T LIKE TO BE IN THE LIMELIGHT. SHE JUST WANTED TO TALK MAYBE IN THE CORNER. LIMELIGHT. SHE JUST WANTED TO TALK MAYBE IN THE CORNER. >>THE SMILE? TALK MAYBE IN THE CORNER. >>THE SMILE? >> OH, GREAT SMILE. >>THE SMILE? >> OH, GREAT SMILE. >>I THINK OF FORMER PRESIDENT >> OH, GREAT SMILE. >>I THINK OF FORMER PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID, THE SMILE" THE >>I THINK OF FORMER PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID, THE SMILE" THE SMILE WAS HIS TRADEMARK. REAGAN SAID, THE SMILE" THE SMILE WAS HIS TRADEMARK. >>IT WAS KIND OF HER'S? SMILE WAS HIS TRADEMARK. >>IT WAS KIND OF HER'S? >> I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL HER >>IT WAS KIND OF HER'S? >> I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL HER SMILE WAS HER TRADEMARK. >> I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL HER SMILE WAS HER TRADEMARK. I FELT HER SHY LOOK WAS HER SMILE WAS HER TRADEMARK. I FELT HER SHY LOOK WAS HER TRADEMARK. I FELT HER SHY LOOK WAS HER TRADEMARK. SHE WOULD LOWER HER HEAD AND TRADEMARK. SHE WOULD LOWER HER HEAD AND LOOK UP. SHE WOULD LOWER HER HEAD AND LOOK UP. IT WAS THOSE LARGE EYES WITH THE LOOK UP. IT WAS THOSE LARGE EYES WITH THE SHYNESS THAT WAS HER TRADEMARK IT WAS THOSE LARGE EYES WITH THE SHYNESS THAT WAS HER TRADEMARK TO ME. SHYNESS THAT WAS HER TRADEMARK TO ME. THAT'S HOW I PAINTED HER SORT OF TO ME. THAT'S HOW I PAINTED HER SORT OF A SHY EXPRESSION. THAT'S HOW I PAINTED HER SORT OF A SHY EXPRESSION. >>EYES. A SHY EXPRESSION. >>EYES. >>BEAUTIFUL EYES. >>EYES. >>BEAUTIFUL EYES. >>YOU MENTIONED EYES. >>BEAUTIFUL EYES. >>YOU MENTIONED EYES. IT SEEMS TO ME IN LOOKING AT THE >>YOU MENTIONED EYES. IT SEEMS TO ME IN LOOKING AT THE FRUITS OF YOUR LABORS, I SEEM TO IT SEEMS TO ME IN LOOKING AT THE FRUITS OF YOUR LABORS, I SEEM TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT FRUITS OF YOUR LABORS, I SEEM TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC OR PART OF THE BE A VERY IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC OR PART OF THE HUMAN ANATOMY. CHARACTERISTIC OR PART OF THE HUMAN ANATOMY. >>EYES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT HUMAN ANATOMY. >>EYES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR EXPRESSION I FEEL. >>EYES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR EXPRESSION I FEEL. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY MAIN PART OF YOUR EXPRESSION I FEEL. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY MAIN TARGET IN CAPTURING THE AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY MAIN TARGET IN CAPTURING THE CHARACTER OF A SITTER. TARGET IN CAPTURING THE CHARACTER OF A SITTER. IT IS THE EYES. CHARACTER OF A SITTER. IT IS THE EYES. I MEAN YOU HAVE TO -- IF YOU IT IS THE EYES. I MEAN YOU HAVE TO -- IF YOU DON'T CAPTURE THE EYES THE WAY I MEAN YOU HAVE TO -- IF YOU DON'T CAPTURE THE EYES THE WAY THE LIGHT CATCHES -- THE WAY DON'T CAPTURE THE EYES THE WAY THE LIGHT CATCHES -- THE WAY THEY FORM, THE WAY THEY ROUND, THE LIGHT CATCHES -- THE WAY THEY FORM, THE WAY THEY ROUND, THE PLACEMENT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEY FORM, THE WAY THEY ROUND, THE PLACEMENT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A THE PLACEMENT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A PORTRAIT OR REPRESENTATION OF THAT, THEN YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A PORTRAIT OR REPRESENTATION OF THE CHARACTER AT ALL. PORTRAIT OR REPRESENTATION OF THE CHARACTER AT ALL. >>IF YOU ARE FEELING OF THE CHARACTER AT ALL. >>IF YOU ARE FEELING OF PORTRAITS, ONE DIMENSIONAL >>IF YOU ARE FEELING OF PORTRAITS, ONE DIMENSIONAL VERSUS SCULPTURE, THE EYES ARE PORTRAITS, ONE DIMENSIONAL VERSUS SCULPTURE, THE EYES ARE MORE DIFFICULT IN THE PAINTING VERSUS SCULPTURE, THE EYES ARE MORE DIFFICULT IN THE PAINTING THAN -- TELL ME. MORE DIFFICULT IN THE PAINTING THAN -- TELL ME. >>I THINK IT IS EQUAL. THAN -- TELL ME. >>I THINK IT IS EQUAL. IT IS EQUAL TO ME ANYWAY. >>I THINK IT IS EQUAL. IT IS EQUAL TO ME ANYWAY. YOU STILL HAVE TO CAPTURE IT IS EQUAL TO ME ANYWAY. YOU STILL HAVE TO CAPTURE EXPRESSION, AND YOU HAVE TO YOU STILL HAVE TO CAPTURE EXPRESSION, AND YOU HAVE TO PLACE THEM RIGHT AND THEY HAVE EXPRESSION, AND YOU HAVE TO PLACE THEM RIGHT AND THEY HAVE TO CAPTURE LIGHT. PLACE THEM RIGHT AND THEY HAVE TO CAPTURE LIGHT. EVEN, OF COURSE, IN TWO TO CAPTURE LIGHT. EVEN, OF COURSE, IN TWO DIMENSIONAL SURFACE, YOU ARE EVEN, OF COURSE, IN TWO DIMENSIONAL SURFACE, YOU ARE CREATING THE ILLUSION OF DIMENSIONAL SURFACE, YOU ARE CREATING THE ILLUSION OF CAPTURING LIGHT. CREATING THE ILLUSION OF CAPTURING LIGHT. WHEREIN THE SCULPTURE, IT DOES CAPTURING LIGHT. WHEREIN THE SCULPTURE, IT DOES CAPTURE LIGHT SO NATURE DOES WHEREIN THE SCULPTURE, IT DOES CAPTURE LIGHT SO NATURE DOES THAT BIT OF WORK FOR YOU. CAPTURE LIGHT SO NATURE DOES THAT BIT OF WORK FOR YOU. >>WELL, PRINCESS DIANA DIED AT THAT BIT OF WORK FOR YOU. >>WELL, PRINCESS DIANA DIED AT AGE 36. >>WELL, PRINCESS DIANA DIED AT AGE 36. >>UH-HUH. AGE 36. >>UH-HUH. >>AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE >>UH-HUH. >>AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SARAH FERGUSON, DUCHESS OF YORK. >>AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SARAH FERGUSON, DUCHESS OF YORK. YOU MET HER? SARAH FERGUSON, DUCHESS OF YORK. YOU MET HER? >> I MET HER. YOU MET HER? >> I MET HER. TELL ME ABOUT THE DUCHESS. >> I MET HER. TELL ME ABOUT THE DUCHESS. >>SHE IS A WONDERFUL MARVELOUS TELL ME ABOUT THE DUCHESS. >>SHE IS A WONDERFUL MARVELOUS PERSONALITY. >>SHE IS A WONDERFUL MARVELOUS PERSONALITY. SHE IS A GREAT, GREAT BIT OF PERSONALITY. SHE IS A GREAT, GREAT BIT OF FUN. SHE IS A GREAT, GREAT BIT OF FUN. WE HAD MANY GOOD TIMES TOGETHER. FUN. WE HAD MANY GOOD TIMES TOGETHER. WE WENT TO PLAYS AND DINNERS. WE HAD MANY GOOD TIMES TOGETHER. WE WENT TO PLAYS AND DINNERS. >>OH, REAL SI? WE WENT TO PLAYS AND DINNERS. >>OH, REAL SI? >> YES, RIGHT. >>OH, REAL SI? >> YES, RIGHT. NOT ALL OF THE SITTINGS WERE >> YES, RIGHT. NOT ALL OF THE SITTINGS WERE DONE. NOT ALL OF THE SITTINGS WERE DONE. I THINK I HAD MAYBE FIVE OR DONE. I THINK I HAD MAYBE FIVE OR SEVEN SITTINGS WITH SARAH. I THINK I HAD MAYBE FIVE OR SEVEN SITTINGS WITH SARAH. >>I UNDERSTAND SHE HAS INTEREST SEVEN SITTINGS WITH SARAH. >>I UNDERSTAND SHE HAS INTEREST IN FITNESS, SKETCHING AND >>I UNDERSTAND SHE HAS INTEREST IN FITNESS, SKETCHING AND WRITING AND A LICENSED PILOT. IN FITNESS, SKETCHING AND WRITING AND A LICENSED PILOT. >>SHE WAS A HELICOPTER PILOT. WRITING AND A LICENSED PILOT. >>SHE WAS A HELICOPTER PILOT. I PAINTED HER WITH HER >>SHE WAS A HELICOPTER PILOT. I PAINTED HER WITH HER HELICOPTER JACKET IN HER LAP AND I PAINTED HER WITH HER HELICOPTER JACKET IN HER LAP AND LITTLE DOG IS PULLING AT THE HELICOPTER JACKET IN HER LAP AND LITTLE DOG IS PULLING AT THE JACKET ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE LITTLE DOG IS PULLING AT THE JACKET ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAINTING. JACKET ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAINTING. SHE IS SEATED ON A FALLEN TREE, PAINTING. SHE IS SEATED ON A FALLEN TREE, HUGE STORM HAD JUST GONE THROUGH SHE IS SEATED ON A FALLEN TREE, HUGE STORM HAD JUST GONE THROUGH ENGLAND WHEN I WAS PAINTING HER. HUGE STORM HAD JUST GONE THROUGH ENGLAND WHEN I WAS PAINTING HER. SHE WAS SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT ENGLAND WHEN I WAS PAINTING HER. SHE WAS SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT WITH EUGENIA, HER DAUGHTER. SHE WAS SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT WITH EUGENIA, HER DAUGHTER. SHE SAT ON THIS FALLEN TREE AT WITH EUGENIA, HER DAUGHTER. SHE SAT ON THIS FALLEN TREE AT CATTLEWOOD OUTSIDE LONDON, SHE SAT ON THIS FALLEN TREE AT CATTLEWOOD OUTSIDE LONDON, CATTLEWOOD WAS THE HOME OF KING CATTLEWOOD OUTSIDE LONDON, CATTLEWOOD WAS THE HOME OF KING HUSSEIN AND QUEEN NORA, AND THEY CATTLEWOOD WAS THE HOME OF KING HUSSEIN AND QUEEN NORA, AND THEY WERE FOOD GOOD FRIENDS OF HUSSEIN AND QUEEN NORA, AND THEY WERE FOOD GOOD FRIENDS OF SARAH'S. WERE FOOD GOOD FRIENDS OF SARAH'S. WE WENT THERE TO FINISH THE SARAH'S. WE WENT THERE TO FINISH THE PAINTING WITH THAT BACKGROUND. WE WENT THERE TO FINISH THE PAINTING WITH THAT BACKGROUND. IT WAS NICE. PAINTING WITH THAT BACKGROUND. IT WAS NICE. I PAINTED PRINCE CHARLES -- IT WAS NICE. I PAINTED PRINCE CHARLES -- PRINCE CHARLES, I AM SORRY, I PAINTED PRINCE CHARLES -- PRINCE CHARLES, I AM SORRY, PRINCE ANDREW AS A FROG ON THE PRINCE CHARLES, I AM SORRY, PRINCE ANDREW AS A FROG ON THE LOWER RIGHTHAND CORN OF THE PRINCE ANDREW AS A FROG ON THE LOWER RIGHTHAND CORN OF THE PAINTING WAITING FOR HIS KI. LOWER RIGHTHAND CORN OF THE PAINTING WAITING FOR HIS KI. >>THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IF ANY PAINTING WAITING FOR HIS KI. >>THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IF ANY OF THESE FOUR PEOPLE, MOTHER >>THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IF ANY OF THESE FOUR PEOPLE, MOTHER THERESA, THE POPE, DIANA AND OF THESE FOUR PEOPLE, MOTHER THERESA, THE POPE, DIANA AND SARAH, IS THERE ANY CAN THERESA, THE POPE, DIANA AND SARAH, IS THERE ANY CAN COMMONALITY ABOUT THEM, SARAH, IS THERE ANY CAN COMMONALITY ABOUT THEM, CHARACTERISTICS? COMMONALITY ABOUT THEM, CHARACTERISTICS? >> ONLY THAT THEY INFLUENCE SO CHARACTERISTICS? >> ONLY THAT THEY INFLUENCE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. >> ONLY THAT THEY INFLUENCE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. I MEAN FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. I MEAN FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE THAT WAY. I MEAN FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE THAT WAY. I THINK THEY WERE ALL REAL WAY. I THINK THEY WERE ALL REAL PEOPLE. I THINK THEY WERE ALL REAL PEOPLE. OF COURSE, I WASN'T INTIMATE PEOPLE. OF COURSE, I WASN'T INTIMATE WITH THE CHARACTER OF POPE JOHN OF COURSE, I WASN'T INTIMATE WITH THE CHARACTER OF POPE JOHN PAUL II. WITH THE CHARACTER OF POPE JOHN PAUL II. BUT IT WAS JUST A THRILLING PAUL II. BUT IT WAS JUST A THRILLING EXPERIENCE TO HAVE BEEN THERE BUT IT WAS JUST A THRILLING EXPERIENCE TO HAVE BEEN THERE AND TALKED WITH HIM AND THE FACT EXPERIENCE TO HAVE BEEN THERE AND TALKED WITH HIM AND THE FACT I WAS ABLE TO DRAW HIM FROM LIFE AND TALKED WITH HIM AND THE FACT I WAS ABLE TO DRAW HIM FROM LIFE WAS EXCITING. I WAS ABLE TO DRAW HIM FROM LIFE WAS EXCITING. I DID MANY OF MY SKETCHES LIKE WAS EXCITING. I DID MANY OF MY SKETCHES LIKE THIS, HE WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, I DID MANY OF MY SKETCHES LIKE THIS, HE WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS EYES CLOSED LIKE THIS. THIS, HE WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS EYES CLOSED LIKE THIS. SO I FINALLY CHOSE TO PAINT HIM WITH HIS EYES CLOSED LIKE THIS. SO I FINALLY CHOSE TO PAINT HIM HIM -- THIS WAS IN FRONT OF ONE SO I FINALLY CHOSE TO PAINT HIM HIM -- THIS WAS IN FRONT OF ONE OF HIS FAVORITE SCULPTURES DONE HIM -- THIS WAS IN FRONT OF ONE OF HIS FAVORITE SCULPTURES DONE BY CONTEMPORARY ITALIAN ARTIST. OF HIS FAVORITE SCULPTURES DONE BY CONTEMPORARY ITALIAN ARTIST. IT WAS A CARVING OF THE A IS BY CONTEMPORARY ITALIAN ARTIST. IT WAS A CARVING OF THE A IS SCENTION OF CHRIST. IT WAS A CARVING OF THE A IS SCENTION OF CHRIST. THIS IS THE EXPRESSION. SCENTION OF CHRIST. THIS IS THE EXPRESSION. THE ASCENSION, I THOUGHT THIS IS THIS IS THE EXPRESSION. THE ASCENSION, I THOUGHT THIS IS HIS FAVORITE SCULPTOR. THE ASCENSION, I THOUGHT THIS IS HIS FAVORITE SCULPTOR. I SHOULD REALLY PAINT HIM IN HIS FAVORITE SCULPTOR. I SHOULD REALLY PAINT HIM IN FRONT OF THAT, EMULATING THAT I SHOULD REALLY PAINT HIM IN FRONT OF THAT, EMULATING THAT POSTURE. THAT'S HOW I DID IT. FRONT OF THAT, EMULATING THAT POSTURE. THAT'S HOW I DID IT. IN FACT, WHEN I PAINTED MOTHER POSTURE. THAT'S HOW I DID IT. IN FACT, WHEN I PAINTED MOTHER THERESA, I THOUGHT I SHOULD IN FACT, WHEN I PAINTED MOTHER THERESA, I THOUGHT I SHOULD REALLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO USE THERESA, I THOUGHT I SHOULD REALLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO USE SOME OF THE LEPORS WHO I MET AND REALLY -- I WOULD LIKE TO USE SOME OF THE LEPORS WHO I MET AND VISITED MORE THAN TWO OTHER SOME OF THE LEPORS WHO I MET AND VISITED MORE THAN TWO OTHER THREE TIMES IN HER PORTRAIT VISITED MORE THAN TWO OTHER THREE TIMES IN HER PORTRAIT WHICH I DID, AND SHE IS HOLDING THREE TIMES IN HER PORTRAIT WHICH I DID, AND SHE IS HOLDING A BABY. WHICH I DID, AND SHE IS HOLDING A BABY. I HAVE HER HAND UP IN A A BABY. I HAVE HER HAND UP IN A CLASSICAL SAINT POSE. I HAVE HER HAND UP IN A CLASSICAL SAINT POSE. BEHIND HER, I USE ONE OF CLASSICAL SAINT POSE. BEHIND HER, I USE ONE OF BERNINI'S SCULPTORS OF SAINT BEHIND HER, I USE ONE OF BERNINI'S SCULPTORS OF SAINT THERESA, HER NAMESAKE, THE BERNINI'S SCULPTORS OF SAINT THERESA, HER NAMESAKE, THE PIERCING ARIZONA O INTO THE THERESA, HER NAMESAKE, THE PIERCING ARIZONA O INTO THE HEART. PIERCING ARIZONA O INTO THE HEART. >>THE OTHERS, FEREDNAL MAR COS, HEART. >>THE OTHERS, FEREDNAL MAR COS, TELL ME ABOUT THAT ACTIVITY. >>THE OTHERS, FEREDNAL MAR COS, TELL ME ABOUT THAT ACTIVITY. MARCOS COMMISSION WAS ACTUALLY TELL ME ABOUT THAT ACTIVITY. MARCOS COMMISSION WAS ACTUALLY CONTACTED THROUGH MY WIFE WHO MARCOS COMMISSION WAS ACTUALLY CONTACTED THROUGH MY WIFE WHO WAS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. CONTACTED THROUGH MY WIFE WHO WAS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. SHE WAS FROM THE SAME PROVENCE WAS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. SHE WAS FROM THE SAME PROVENCE AS HER FAMILY WAS FROM THE SAME SHE WAS FROM THE SAME PROVENCE AS HER FAMILY WAS FROM THE SAME PROVENCE AS MARCOS, AND THAT'S AS HER FAMILY WAS FROM THE SAME PROVENCE AS MARCOS, AND THAT'S HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. PROVENCE AS MARCOS, AND THAT'S HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. I WAS THERE THE YEAR HE LEFT, HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. I WAS THERE THE YEAR HE LEFT, JUST ACTUALLY A FEW MONTHS I WAS THERE THE YEAR HE LEFT, JUST ACTUALLY A FEW MONTHS BEFORE. JUST ACTUALLY A FEW MONTHS BEFORE. SO AFTER HAVING PRESENTED THE BEFORE. SO AFTER HAVING PRESENTED THE PAINTING ON HIS BIRTHDAY, SO AFTER HAVING PRESENTED THE PAINTING ON HIS BIRTHDAY, MONICHAN PALACE, THE PAINTING PAINTING ON HIS BIRTHDAY, MONICHAN PALACE, THE PAINTING WAS DESTROYED AND TAKEN OUT OF MONICHAN PALACE, THE PAINTING WAS DESTROYED AND TAKEN OUT OF THE PALACE AND BURNED ON WAS DESTROYED AND TAKEN OUT OF THE PALACE AND BURNED ON TELEVISION AFTER I RETURNED TO THE PALACE AND BURNED ON TELEVISION AFTER I RETURNED TO THE UNITED STATES. I SAW THE TELEVISION AFTER I RETURNED TO THE UNITED STATES. I SAW THE PAINTING DESTROYED ON TV. THE UNITED STATES. I SAW THE PAINTING DESTROYED ON TV. >>DESCRIBE HIS SPOUSE. PAINTING DESTROYED ON TV. >>DESCRIBE HIS SPOUSE. >>SHE WAS VERY, VERY WARM, VERY >>DESCRIBE HIS SPOUSE. >>SHE WAS VERY, VERY WARM, VERY WARM AND GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. >>SHE WAS VERY, VERY WARM, VERY WARM AND GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. I REALLY LIKED HER. WARM AND GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. I REALLY LIKED HER. >>THE PREPARATION, I THINK, OF I REALLY LIKED HER. >>THE PREPARATION, I THINK, OF THE 80-20 RULE, YOU SPEND 0% OF >>THE PREPARATION, I THINK, OF THE 80-20 RULE, YOU SPEND 0% OF YOUR TIME PREPARING OR THINKING THE 80-20 RULE, YOU SPEND 0% OF YOUR TIME PREPARING OR THINKING AND MAYBE 20% OF YOUR TIME YOUR TIME PREPARING OR THINKING AND MAYBE 20% OF YOUR TIME ACTUALLY DOING IT. AND MAYBE 20% OF YOUR TIME ACTUALLY DOING IT. IS THAT APPLICABLE TO WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DOING IT. IS THAT APPLICABLE TO WHAT YOU DO? IS THAT APPLICABLE TO WHAT YOU DO? >> THAT'S TRUE. DO? >> THAT'S TRUE. IT IS DEPENDS HOW HISTORICAL YOU >> THAT'S TRUE. IT IS DEPENDS HOW HISTORICAL YOU ARE WITH THE PIECE OR WITH THE IT IS DEPENDS HOW HISTORICAL YOU ARE WITH THE PIECE OR WITH THE DEGREE OF RESEARCH NECESSARY FOR ARE WITH THE PIECE OR WITH THE DEGREE OF RESEARCH NECESSARY FOR APPLICATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO DEGREE OF RESEARCH NECESSARY FOR APPLICATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF COMPLETELY APPLICATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF COMPLETELY WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO EXTRACT FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF COMPLETELY WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO EXTRACT ANOTHER CHARACTER OR REPRESENT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO EXTRACT ANOTHER CHARACTER OR REPRESENT IT OR DELINEATE IT, HOWEVER YOU ANOTHER CHARACTER OR REPRESENT IT OR DELINEATE IT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. IT OR DELINEATE IT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO WANT TO PUT IT. BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT COMES OUT IS THE WAY YOU FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT COMES OUT IS THE WAY YOU PERCEIVE IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO COMES OUT IS THE WAY YOU PERCEIVE IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO HOW THEY PERCEIVE THEMSELVES PERCEIVE IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO HOW THEY PERCEIVE THEMSELVES HOPEFULLY, AND IT IS A MEETING HOW THEY PERCEIVE THEMSELVES HOPEFULLY, AND IT IS A MEETING OF THE MINDS AND SOULS REALLY. HOPEFULLY, AND IT IS A MEETING OF THE MINDS AND SOULS REALLY. >>WHAT WAS THE EASIEST OR WHAT OF THE MINDS AND SOULS REALLY. >>WHAT WAS THE EASIEST OR WHAT WAS YOUR MOST FAVORITE OR WHICH >>WHAT WAS THE EASIEST OR WHAT WAS YOUR MOST FAVORITE OR WHICH DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT WAS YOUR MOST FAVORITE OR WHICH DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT GAVE YOU THE MOST PLEASURE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT GAVE YOU THE MOST PLEASURE? WHICH GAVE YOU THE MOST GAVE YOU THE MOST PLEASURE? WHICH GAVE YOU THE MOST PLEASURE? WHICH GAVE YOU THE MOST PLEASURE? >> PROBABLY THE MAHARAGIAGE, PLEASURE? >> PROBABLY THE MAHARAGIAGE, MAHARANA MEWAR, I AM SORRY, THAT >> PROBABLY THE MAHARAGIAGE, MAHARANA MEWAR, I AM SORRY, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST, ONE OF MAHARANA MEWAR, I AM SORRY, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST, ONE OF THE MOST PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCES WAS PROBABLY THE MOST, ONE OF THE MOST PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCES BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN THE THE MOST PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCES BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN THE PALACE AND EVERYTHING WAS SO BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN THE PALACE AND EVERYTHING WAS SO UNIQUE AND IT WAS MIND BOGGLING PALACE AND EVERYTHING WAS SO UNIQUE AND IT WAS MIND BOGGLING REALLY TO SEE THE MOTHER THERE UNIQUE AND IT WAS MIND BOGGLING REALLY TO SEE THE MOTHER THERE UNFOLDING BEFORE YOUR EYES AS REALLY TO SEE THE MOTHER THERE UNFOLDING BEFORE YOUR EYES AS YOU ARE CATALOGING PAINTINGS AND UNFOLDING BEFORE YOUR EYES AS YOU ARE CATALOGING PAINTINGS AND LISTENING TO STORIES ABOUT -- YOU ARE CATALOGING PAINTINGS AND LISTENING TO STORIES ABOUT -- AND LOOKING AT PHOTOGRAPHS AND LISTENING TO STORIES ABOUT -- AND LOOKING AT PHOTOGRAPHS AND HEARING ABOUT LORD MAHNBATTEN AND LOOKING AT PHOTOGRAPHS AND HEARING ABOUT LORD MAHNBATTEN WORKING WITH HIS FATHER, AND IT HEARING ABOUT LORD MAHNBATTEN WORKING WITH HIS FATHER, AND IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT, THIS WORKING WITH HIS FATHER, AND IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT, THIS MAHARANA MEWAR. WAS THAT IMPORTANT, THIS MAHARANA MEWAR. IN FACT, HIS DAUGHTER VISITED MAHARANA MEWAR. IN FACT, HIS DAUGHTER VISITED WITH HER CHILDREN WHILE I WAS IN FACT, HIS DAUGHTER VISITED WITH HER CHILDREN WHILE I WAS THERE. WITH HER CHILDREN WHILE I WAS THERE. THAT WAS REALLY AN EXPERIENCE THERE. THAT WAS REALLY AN EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT OUT THE THAT WAS REALLY AN EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT OUT THE ALBUMS AND THEY SHOWED THE TIGER BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT OUT THE ALBUMS AND THEY SHOWED THE TIGER HUNTS AND THEY WERE LINED UP ON ALBUMS AND THEY SHOWED THE TIGER HUNTS AND THEY WERE LINED UP ON THE STEPS IT THE WAY THAT HUNTS AND THEY WERE LINED UP ON THE STEPS IT THE WAY THAT ENTERTAINED. THE STEPS IT THE WAY THAT ENTERTAINED. >>HOW LONG WERE YOU THERE? ENTERTAINED. >>HOW LONG WERE YOU THERE? >> QUITE AWHILE, GOSH, I THINK >>HOW LONG WERE YOU THERE? >> QUITE AWHILE, GOSH, I THINK IT WAS OVER TWO MONTHS. >> QUITE AWHILE, GOSH, I THINK IT WAS OVER TWO MONTHS. >>IT TWO MONTHS? IT WAS OVER TWO MONTHS. >>IT TWO MONTHS? >> I THINK IS SO. >>IT TWO MONTHS? >> I THINK IS SO. I AM NOT SURE. >> I THINK IS SO. I AM NOT SURE. >>YOU WERE COMMISSIONED TO DO I AM NOT SURE. >>YOU WERE COMMISSIONED TO DO ONE PAINTING. >>YOU WERE COMMISSIONED TO DO ONE PAINTING. >>ONE PAINTING. ONE PAINTING. >>ONE PAINTING. I DID OTHER THINGS WHILE I WAS >>ONE PAINTING. I DID OTHER THINGS WHILE I WAS THERE AS WELL. I DID OTHER THINGS WHILE I WAS THERE AS WELL. >>SO YOU REALLY GOT INTO THE IS THERE AS WELL. >>SO YOU REALLY GOT INTO THE IS SOUL, MIND, HEAD OF THIS FAMILY. >>SO YOU REALLY GOT INTO THE IS SOUL, MIND, HEAD OF THIS FAMILY. O ORGANIZATION YEAH, LOVED THE SOUL, MIND, HEAD OF THIS FAMILY. O ORGANIZATION YEAH, LOVED THE FAMILY. O ORGANIZATION YEAH, LOVED THE FAMILY. >>THEY WERE SPECIAL THE WAY THEY FAMILY. >>THEY WERE SPECIAL THE WAY THEY TREATED YOU, I PRESUME. >>THEY WERE SPECIAL THE WAY THEY TREATED YOU, I PRESUME. >>RIGHT. TREATED YOU, I PRESUME. >>RIGHT. >>HOW DID THEY TREAT YOU AS ONE >>RIGHT. >>HOW DID THEY TREAT YOU AS ONE WITH OF THEIR'S OR SPECIAL >>HOW DID THEY TREAT YOU AS ONE WITH OF THEIR'S OR SPECIAL GUEST? WITH OF THEIR'S OR SPECIAL GUEST? >> TREATED ME LIKE ONE OF THEIR GUEST? >> TREATED ME LIKE ONE OF THEIR FAMILY, YES, RIGHT. >> TREATED ME LIKE ONE OF THEIR FAMILY, YES, RIGHT. IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. FAMILY, YES, RIGHT. IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. OF COURSE, THE WONDERFUL THING IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. OF COURSE, THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT DOING A PORTRAIT AND OF COURSE, THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT DOING A PORTRAIT AND WORKING WITH SOMEONE, I DON'T ABOUT DOING A PORTRAIT AND WORKING WITH SOMEONE, I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY ARE FROM OR AT WORKING WITH SOMEONE, I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY ARE FROM OR AT WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE. CARE WHERE THEY ARE FROM OR AT WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE. THIS IS NOT PARTICULARLY TRUE WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE. THIS IS NOT PARTICULARLY TRUE WITH THE POPE. THIS IS NOT PARTICULARLY TRUE WITH THE POPE. I WAS MORE REMOVED FROM HIM, OF WITH THE POPE. I WAS MORE REMOVED FROM HIM, OF COURSE. I WAS MORE REMOVED FROM HIM, OF COURSE. BUT NORMALLY, YOUR SITTER WANTS COURSE. BUT NORMALLY, YOUR SITTER WANTS YOU TO NOTE THEM. BUT NORMALLY, YOUR SITTER WANTS YOU TO NOTE THEM. THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW THEIR BEST YOU TO NOTE THEM. THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW THEIR BEST QUALITIES OR THEIR CHARACTER. THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW THEIR BEST QUALITIES OR THEIR CHARACTER. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH QUALITIES OR THEIR CHARACTER. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME YOU, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE MIND FOR ME TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE MIND AND THEN THE CHARACTER AND GET AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE MIND AND THEN THE CHARACTER AND GET TO KNOW THAT PERSON. THEY WANT AND THEN THE CHARACTER AND GET TO KNOW THAT PERSON. THEY WANT THAT JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE TO KNOW THAT PERSON. THEY WANT THAT JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THAN I DO. THAT JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THAN I DO. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE EXPERIENCE SO THRILLING. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE EXPERIENCE SO THRILLING. YOU ARE LEARNING ALL ABOUT THEM, SO THRILLING. YOU ARE LEARNING ALL ABOUT THEM, ALL ABOUT THEM. YOU ARE LEARNING ALL ABOUT THEM, ALL ABOUT THEM. >>YOU COULD LIVE YOUR LIFE ALL ABOUT THEM. >>YOU COULD LIVE YOUR LIFE AGAIN, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? >>YOU COULD LIVE YOUR LIFE AGAIN, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? >>PROBABLY NOTHING BECAUSE I AGAIN, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? >>PROBABLY NOTHING BECAUSE I THINK EVERYTHING RELATES TO >>PROBABLY NOTHING BECAUSE I THINK EVERYTHING RELATES TO EVERYTHING ELSE, AND PROBABLY THINK EVERYTHING RELATES TO EVERYTHING ELSE, AND PROBABLY NOTHING. EVERYTHING ELSE, AND PROBABLY NOTHING. >>SO YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN SAME NOTHING. >>SO YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN SAME WAY THIS. >>SO YOU WOULD DO IT AGAIN SAME WAY THIS. >>EVERYONE GOES THROUGH BAD WAY THIS. >>EVERYONE GOES THROUGH BAD TIMES, GOOD TIMES. >>EVERYONE GOES THROUGH BAD TIMES, GOOD TIMES. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST ARE WHAT YOU TIMES, GOOD TIMES. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST ARE WHAT YOU ARE, AND I DON'T THINK -- I YOU KNOW, YOU JUST ARE WHAT YOU ARE, AND I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T KNOW I AM VERY, VERY ARE, AND I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T KNOW I AM VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT I HAVE BEEN DON'T KNOW I AM VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THANKFUL FOR WHAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND I HAVE BEEN GIVEN SOME GIFTS AND I HAD PARENTS WHO GIVEN, AND I HAVE BEEN GIVEN SOME GIFTS AND I HAD PARENTS WHO RECOGNIZED THOSE GIFTS AT AN SOME GIFTS AND I HAD PARENTS WHO RECOGNIZED THOSE GIFTS AT AN EARLY AGE AND PROMOTED THAT. RECOGNIZED THOSE GIFTS AT AN EARLY AGE AND PROMOTED THAT. I HAVE HAD A WONDERFUL, EARLY AGE AND PROMOTED THAT. I HAVE HAD A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO MEET I HAVE HAD A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED ME LIKE, AS I MENTIONED, SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED ME LIKE, AS I MENTIONED, MARY JO FOR ONE THING. HELPED ME LIKE, AS I MENTIONED, MARY JO FOR ONE THING. AND IT HAS JUST BEEN A GREAT MARY JO FOR ONE THING. AND IT HAS JUST BEEN A GREAT JOURNEY FOR ME. AND IT HAS JUST BEEN A GREAT JOURNEY FOR ME. I DON'T THINK I WOULD, OF JOURNEY FOR ME. I DON'T THINK I WOULD, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE LITTLE REGRETS I DON'T THINK I WOULD, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE LITTLE REGRETS ALONG THE WAY, WHY DID I DO COURSE, YOU HAVE LITTLE REGRETS ALONG THE WAY, WHY DID I DO THAT? ALONG THE WAY, WHY DID I DO THAT? WHY DID I DO THIS? THAT? WHY DID I DO THIS? BUT IT IS YOUR CHARACTER. WHY DID I DO THIS? BUT IT IS YOUR CHARACTER. YOUR ONLY REGRET MIGHT BE YOU BUT IT IS YOUR CHARACTER. YOUR ONLY REGRET MIGHT BE YOU HAVE NO REGRETS. YOUR ONLY REGRET MIGHT BE YOU HAVE NO REGRETS. >>I HAVE SOME REGRETS, OF HAVE NO REGRETS. >>I HAVE SOME REGRETS, OF COURSE! >>I HAVE SOME REGRETS, OF COURSE! (LAUGHING) BUT AS FAR AS COURSE! (LAUGHING) BUT AS FAR AS CHANGING THE COURSE OF MY LIFE, (LAUGHING) BUT AS FAR AS CHANGING THE COURSE OF MY LIFE, I DON'T THINK SO I JUST HOPES IT CHANGING THE COURSE OF MY LIFE, I DON'T THINK SO I JUST HOPES IT CONTINUES IN AN UPWARD FASHION. I DON'T THINK SO I JUST HOPES IT CONTINUES IN AN UPWARD FASHION. >>YOU EXEP PLI FI WHAT SOMEONE CONTINUES IN AN UPWARD FASHION. >>YOU EXEP PLI FI WHAT SOMEONE CAN DO WITH THEIR GIFTS. >>YOU EXEP PLI FI WHAT SOMEONE CAN DO WITH THEIR GIFTS. WE ALL HAVE GIFTS. CAN DO WITH THEIR GIFTS. WE ALL HAVE GIFTS. >>WE DO. WE ALL HAVE GIFTS. >>WE DO. >>DIFFERENT TYPES. >>WE DO. >>DIFFERENT TYPES. THE POINT IS YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE >>DIFFERENT TYPES. THE POINT IS YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE ALONG YOUR GIFTS TO THE FOLKS THE POINT IS YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE ALONG YOUR GIFTS TO THE FOLKS THAT ANYONE COULD EVER EXPECT. ALONG YOUR GIFTS TO THE FOLKS THAT ANYONE COULD EVER EXPECT. THAT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO VISIT THAT ANYONE COULD EVER EXPECT. THAT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO VISIT WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON. THAT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO VISIT WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON. >>THANK YOU. WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON. >>THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK >>THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>