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African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises

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African Capacity for Immediate
Response to Crises
Active 2013 – present
Country  Algeria
 Chad
 South Africa
 Tanzania
 Uganda
Allegiance African Union
Role Infantry
Size 5 battalions

The African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) is a temporary multinational African interventionist standby force set up in November 2013. It will be replaced by the African Standby Force when it becomes fully operational.[1][2][3]

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♪ [THEME MUSIC] ♪ >>> HELLO. I'M CAROLL JENKINS. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF BLACK AMERICA. A ONE HOUR TOWN HALL DEDICATED TO EXPLORING THE WAY FORWARD, POST OBAMA AND THE TRUMP ERA. THE SHOW IS AIRING FIRST LIVE ON FACEBOOK WHERE WE ARE TAKING YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE FOR FIRST TIME. AND THREE GREAT PANELISTS TOO SO FOR THOSE ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER START SENDING YOUR QUESTIONS IN NOW USING THE #BLACKAMERICATOWNHALL. SO LET'S MEET OUR GREAT PANELIST WHO WILL SHARE THEIR GREAT INSIGHT AND STRONG OPINIONS DURING THIS HOUR. REBECCA CARROLL, WRITES CULTURAL CRITICISM FOR THE "L.A. TIMES" AND OPINION FOR THE "GUARDIAN". IS A PRODUCER AND HOST OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROGRAMS AT WNYC. DR. EDDIE GLAUDE JR. IS PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AT PRINCETON UNIVERSITY WHERE HE ALSO HEADS THE CENTER FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES. AND DR. CHRISTINA GREER IS ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AT FORDHAM UNIVERSITY AND A POLITICAL AND SOCIAL ANALYST IN GREAT DEMAND. AND WE ALSO HAVE ANSWERING AND HANDING QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS THEY COME IN FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND FROM HERE IN THE AUDIENCE ABI ISHOLA WHO IS ONE OF OUR GREAT BLACK AMERICA PRODUCERS AND YOU'LL BE SEEING AND HEARING MORE OF HER IN A LITTLE BIT. SO WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS, PANELISTS. WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT TO THIS. IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT BLACK AMERICA BECAUSE WE USUALLY TAPE BUT IN THIS CASE WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS AS THIS SHOW IS UNDER WAY. ON MAY 9TH, PRESIDENT TRUMP FIRED FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY. CITING HIS HANDLING OF THE HILLARY CLINTON CASE. HE PREVIOUSLY FIRED ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL SALLY YATES, STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS INCLUDING PREET BHARARA FROM NEW YORK AND HIS OWN TOP SECURITY ADVISER GENERAL MICHAEL FLYNN. NEW YORK SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER REQUESTED ALL DEMOCRATIC SENATORS TO BE ON THE FLOOR THIS MORNING AT THE TIME OF OUR SHOW. IT'S EXPECTED THAT THEY WILL BE DEMANDING A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO CONTINUE THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA. SO I ASK BEFORE WE STARTED WHO WANTED TO GO FIRST ON THIS AND SINCE EDDIE YOU'VE BEEN ON TELEVISION ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR BLACK AMERICA IS THE FIRST QUESTION? >> WELL, IT'S A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT WE KNEW ALREADY. THAT IS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A PRESIDENT COMMITTED TO ANY SERIOUS UNDERSTANDING OF DEMOCRACY. THAT HE WAS IN SOME WAYS A REPRESENTATIVE OF -- AND THIS IS JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF THAT FACT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT TRUMP FLOUTS DEMOCRATIC NORMS. THIS IS JUST THE LATEST INSTANCE. BUT I WANT TO INSIST THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS ACTION WITHIN A BROADER CONTEXT. AND THAT IS WE'VE SEEN SINCE NIXON AND EVEN BEFORE THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY EXPAND, EXPAND AND KIND OF EXPANSION OF EXECUTIVE POWER. AND WHETHER IT WAS NIXON OR WHETHER IT WAS OBAMA, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE EXECUTIVE POWER. SUCH THAT IF YOU GET A PERSON LIKE DONALD TRUMP IN THAT POSITION, YOU WILL SEE THIS SORT OF ABUSE. RIGHT? SO IT IS, IN FACT, THE PROBLEM. DONALD TRUMP IS THE PROBLEM. BUT HE'S A PROBLEM WITHIN A LARGER PROBLEM. AND THAT IS THE EXPANSION OF EXECUTIVE POWER. SO THIS IS HAPPENING AT THE MOMENT IN WHICH I THINK HE'S NOT SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE ON HIM IN REGARDS TO RUSSIAN COLLUSION. I THINK HE'S WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO HAVE ON HIM. AND SO THIS IS AN INTERRUPTION OF THIS PROCESS THAT I THINK IT HAS TO BE UNDERSTOOD WITHIN THE BROADER CONTEXT. >> AND WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE CONSTITUTION ONLY GIVES THE PRESIDENT TWO POWERS, RIGHT? BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THE FRAMERS WERE SO AFRAID OF, YOU KNOW, THE KING. AND SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ROLE OF THE EXECUTIVE IS QUITE SMALL. THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW, GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS CHOSEN. BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT IT. RIGHT? HE HAD NO HEIRS. >> I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT. >> YOU ALWAYS WANT THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T WANT THE JOB RIGHT? AND SO THEY ONLY GAVE HIM TWO POWERS. ONE IS THE VETO. AND THE OTHER IS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. SO OVER TIME, THE LAST 45 PRESIDENTS, HAVE SLOWLY EXPANDED THE OFFICE AND NOT CONTRACTED IT. THIS, IS YOU KNOW, IN PRESIDENT NUMBER 45, HE HAS PROBABLY NOT READ THE CONSTITUTION. HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IT. HE HASN'T READ IT AND HE DOESN'T RESPECT IT. AND THE ONLY WAY THE CONSTITUTION WORKS IN THE SEPARATION OF POWERS WITH THE EXECUTIVE, LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL IS IF EVERYONE PLAYS THEIR PART. IF PRESIDENT DOESN'T PLAY HIS PART BECAUSE HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HIS PART, THEN WE'RE IN A REALLY DANGEROUS POSITION. AND ESPECIALLY FOR BLACK AMERICA BECAUSE THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS NO TRACK RECORD OF EVER BEING PROGRESSIVE WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK AMERICA. HE DOES HAVE A TRACK RECORD THOUGH OF RACISM, OF SEGREGATION, OF RED LINING, OF MAKING SURE HE IS TAKING OUT A FULL PAGE AD IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE. HE'S NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR CALLING FOR THE DEATH PENELTY FOR THESE YOUNG MEN. AFTER THEY WERE PROVEN INNOCENT. HE SPENT EIGHT YEARS DENIGRATING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS EVEN AFTER HE WAS PROVEN WRONG. >> I DON'T THINK HE EVER APOLOGIZED FOR THAT. >> HE NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR THAT AND HE COULD NEVER PROVE THAT HE WAS WRONG. SO HIS TRACK RECORD WITH BLACK AMERICA IS PRETTY CLEAR, RIGHT? >> YEAH. AND REBECCA? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND PUBLIC POLICY BUT WHAT HE DOES UNDERSTAND IS THAT MOST AMERICANS DON'T UNDERSTAND PUBLIC POLICY. WHAT -- AND THAT'S WHY HE TWEETS. >> WELL HE HAS A TWELVE YEAR HEAD START OF BEING IN THE MEDIA. HE UNDERSTANDS MEDIA. >> RIGHT. HE UNDERSTANDS MEDIA BUT HE ALSO UNDERSTANDS INTERNET CULTURE WHICH IS THE MEDIUM OF THIS GENERATION. WHAT I FEEL HOPEFUL ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHO ELSE UNDERSTANDS TWITTER? BLACK FOLKS. AND THAT WE HAVE USED THAT PLATFORM TO CREATE HASH TAG SOCIAL MEDIA ACTIVISM, MEMES, GIFS AND THE WHOLE SOCIAL MEDIA MOVEMENT IS BLACK RESISTANCE. SO I FEEL LIKE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THERE'S HOPE WE CAN KIND OF SHIFT THE DIALOGUE AND CAPITALIZE ON THE FACT THAT HE'S IN OUR TERRITORY ON TWITTER. >> I WANT TO MENTION TWO THINGS. JEFF SESSIONS APPARENTLY RECUSED HIMSELF FROM HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY CLINTON OR THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION. AND WAS A PART OF THIS FIRING, YOU KNOW, OF THE LETTERS THAT WENT OUT EXPLAINING WHY JIM COMEY HAD TO GO. AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REMEMBER IN THE LAST DAYS THERE WERE REPORTS THAT THEY WERE SECRETLY TRYING TO HIDE THE TRAIL OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND RUSSIA. SO THOSE TWO THINGS. COMMENT ON BARACK OBAMA SAW SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE PIKE. HE APPARENTLY PERSONALLY TOLD DONALD TRUMP DON'T HIRE GENERAL FLYNN. THERE IS BAD NEWS HERE. >> THERE WAS SOME CONCERN. AND RIGHTFULLY SO. IT HAS PLAYED ITSELF OUT THAT IF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAD FOUND OUT EARLIER ABOUT THE SANCTIONS THAT WERE COMING THE NEW SANCTIONS THAT WERE COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT IF THEY HAD BEEN MADE AWARE OF SOME OF THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE AROUND TRUMP'S ASSOCIATE THAT'S THERE WAS KIND OF INTERVENE AND INTERRUPT. SO THERE WAS A REASONABLE EFFORT TO KEEP IT OUT OF VIEW OF THE TRUMP FOLKS. AND WE SEE WHY NOW. I THINK IN TERMS OF JEFF SESSIONS AND HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE FIRING OF JIM COMEY AFTER HIS CONFIRMATION HEARINGS SAYING HE WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF AND AFTER THE BIG PRESS CONFERENCE AND HE WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DEFINED BY LIES, HYPOCRISY AND GREED. SO THESE PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU ONE THING AND DO ANOTHER. AND EXPECT YOU TO JUST SIMPLY ACCEPT IT. >> WELL, SO MANY SENATORS AND REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE JUST FALLING IN LINE. YOU KNOW? AND AS REBECCA SAID, IT'S THE RESISTANCE. AND BLACK WOMEN SPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, JASON JOHNSON HAD A GREAT PIECE IN THE ROOT, BLACK WOMEN ARE THE KRYPTONITE TO THE GOP. WE'RE NOT BUYING ANYTHING THEY'RE SELLING. WE NEVER BOUGHT IT. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IT IN. THEY CAN KEEP LYING AND SAYING THIS. WE'RE THE ONLY ONES SAYING, YEAH, I SEE YOU. I SEE YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND I THINK THIS PARTICULAR ADMINISTRATION IS FILLED WITH PEOPLE ALSO WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SO THE ROLE OF HOW ALL -- YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LEVEL OF RESPECT. THERE SHOULD BE ELITISM TO THE WHITE HOUSE. I WANT MY PRESIDENT TO BE SMARTER THAN ME. I DON'T MIND THAT MY PRESIDENT SORT OF HAS SMART PEOPLE AROUND HIM. THIS IS -- TRUMP HIRED PEOPLE THAT DON'T RESPECT OFFICE THAT'S HE PUT THEM IN. >> PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP DON'T WANT THEIR PRESIDENT SMARTER THAN HIM. >>SPEAKING OF A SMART PRESIDENT, LET'S GO BACK TO BARACK OBAMA FOR A MINUTE. IN HIS POST PRESIDENCY, HE GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT OF HOT WATER. HE IS DOING SPEAKING CIRCUIT AND HE IS IN MILAN NOW. DURING THIS PERIOD $3 MILLION FOR A CLIMATE SPEECH AND A $400,000 SPEECH TO THE BANKERS. LET'S LISTEN TO TREVOR NOAH WHO HAS A TAKE ON SOME OF THE NEGATIVE REACTION TO PRESIDENT OBAMA. LET'S LISTEN. >> SO THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT MUST ALSO BE THE FIRST ONE TO NOT TAKE MONEY AFTER? NO. NO. NO. NO, MY FRIENDS. HE CAN'T BE THE FIRST OF EVERYTHING. [ BLEEP ] THAT AND [ BLEEP ] YOU. YEAH. I SAID IT. >> SO NOT JUST BLACK WOMEN, THERE IS BLACK GUYS, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS A COMMENT. EDDIE, TALK US TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR RESPONSE TO WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IS DOING IN HIS POST. BUT DID HE GIVE A MILLION DOLLARS TO CITY KIDS IN CHICAGO. >> GOOD FOR HIM. ABSOLUTELY. >> YEAH. I'M SORRY. I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG DEAL IS. WHY HE CAN'T GET HIS COIN. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT HE IS- IT'S A JOB. HE DOESN'T HAVE A JOB RIGHT NOW. HE IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. >> THE WAY IN WHICH I UNDERSTAND HOW WE STRUGGLE AROUND A SOCIETY THAT IS OLIGARCHIC, A SOCIETY IN WHICH THE 1% IN THE TOP 1/10% GARNER MOST OF THE INCOME GAINS AND WEALTH WHILE THE BOTTOM QUINTILE SUFFERS. MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE INTERVENE IN THAT IS NOT TO REPLACE WHITE OLIGARCHS WITH BLACK OLIGARCHS AND NOT TO HAVE BLACK PEOPLE INSIDE THE GAME, TO CHANGE JUST THE COLOR OF THE GAME. SO I DON'T WANT TO BEGRUDGE PRESIDENT OBAMA. SOMEBODY IS OUT HERE ON THE ACADEMIC CIRCUIT GETTING PAID $50,000 AND $25,000 TO GIVE A TALK. I UNDERSTAND HE IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT. YOU GET PAID. BUT I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSELL WHAT IT MEANS FOR A PERSON TO GIVE -- TO BRING CRITIQUE TO BEAR ON WALL STREET'S ROLE IN OUR SOCIETY, ON HEDGE FUNDS AND THOSE WHO RUN THEM, HOW THEY IMPACT AND DISTORT AND DISFIGURE OUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO COME OUT AND TO THEN GO BACK TO WALL STREET AND TO GET $400,000, THE OPTICS ARE JUST WRONG. HE COULD HAVE MADE A BETTER DECISION. >> CHRISTINA, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT QUICKLY? >> AND I WANT TO SAY THIS AS WELL- NO, GO AHEAD. >> SO HERE'S THE THING. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN BED WITH WALL STREET. >> BOTH. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO ENDORSED OBAMA AND WHO ENDORSED McCAIN, GOLDMAN SACH'S WILL GIVE 49.5% TO YOU AND 50.5% TO ME. THEY HEDGED THEIR BETS. THEY'RE BILLIONAIRES. THEY CAN DO THAT. SO MY ISSUE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE IN BARACK OBAMA'S POCKETS. HE CAN GET A PENSION. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT REAGAN, BUSH ONE, CLINTON, BUSH TWO, MAKING MILLIONS AFTER THEY LEFT OFFICE GIVING SPEECHES. NOW EVERYONE IS CLUTCHING THEIR PEARLS WHERE THIS IS ALL OF A SUDDEN A BAD THING. ALSO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO WITH THE MONEY. WE KNOW THE CLINTON'S HAD TO PAY OFF THEIR LAWYERS. THE BUSHES WERE ALREADY MILLIONAIRES. WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN -- I UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF WALL STREET IS PROBLEMATIC. WALL STREET HONESTLY IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. BERNIE SANDERS, I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT WORKING. GUESS WHAT, BERNIE SANDERS? YOU TAKE WALL STREET MONEY, TOO. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE HERE. MY QUESTION IS WHY HE ONLY MAKING $400,000? >> RIGHT. >> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS TOPIC. I PROMISE. >> WHAT KIND OF MONEY HAS HE AND HIS FAMILY MADE SINCE HE HAS TAKEN OFFICE? >> WELL, IT'S BEEN $60 MILLION FOR A JOINT BOOK DEAL THAT WE KNOW ABOUT AND NOW THESE SPEECH THAT'S ARE COMING IN. HE SEEMS TO BE TAKING FOR HIS FOUNDATION AND GIVING IT AWAY. CREATING THE FOUNDATION AND GIVING IT AWAY. MOST OF IT, LIKE THE $3 MILLION WENT DIRECTLY TO HIS FOUNDATION. WE KNOW THE KIDS IN CHICAGO GOT $1 MILLION SO FAR. >> HE ALSO HAS TO BUILD A LIBRARY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE LOTS TO SAY WHEN MICHELLE OBAMA STARTS MAKING MONEY. KEEP IN MIND SHE IS PRINCETON. UNDERGRAD HARVARD J.D. SHE WORKED FOR FREE FOR EIGHT YEARS. SO IF SHE WANTS TO MAKE SOME MONEY WITH SOME SPEECHES I DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. >> THEY ALSO HAVE TWO KIDS GOING TO COLLEGE. THE EXPENSE OF COLLEGES. >> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. >> OH, OKAY. >> THE TRUMP FAMILY, WHAT HAVE THEY MADE, SINCE TAKING OFFICE. >> WHAT'S LEFT? >> THE QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE A CALCULATOR THAT GOES THAT HIGH. THEY SEEM TO BE DOING QUITE WELL. OF COURSE, IT'S THIS TRANSPARENCY THAT'S LACKING THAT PEOPLE KEEP ASKING FOR THE TAX RETURNS AND TO KNOW WHAT RELATIONSHIP HE HAS TO AFRICAN OLIGARCHIC- RUSSIAN OLIGARCHIC AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR MONEY. >> LET'S GO BACK TO THIS OBAMA QUESTION REALLY QUICKLY. IT IS NOT BEGRUDGING THE OBAMAS MAKING THEIR PAPER. I'M NOT DOING THAT. THAT I THINK THERE IS AN OVERALL CRITIQUE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AND WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT IN THAT CRITIQUE. OF AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT EXPLOITS ORDINARY PEOPLE AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT BENEFITS THOSE WHO ARE AT THE TOP. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN REPRESENTED AS A KIND OF EMBLEMATIC OF A PROGRESSIVE POLITICS. IT HAS BEEN WRONG SINCE THE BEGINNING. HE IS A CORPORATE DEMOCRAT. HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CORPORATE DEMOCRAT. THERE IS A REASON WHY HE CALLED MACRON IN FRANCE. HE INVESTED IN NEOLIBERAL MARKET IDEOLOGY THAT MACRON IS THE POSTER CHILD FOR. HE'S NOT WHO WE THINK HE IS. >> BUT HE NEVER SAID HE WAS. THE ONLY RADICAL THING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA IS HIS SKIN COLOR. HE IS RIGHT NEXT TO BILL CLINTON AND HILLARY CLINTON WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS. >> HE IS A THIRD WAVE DEMOCRAT. >> RIGHT. >> I GRANT YOU THAT. PART OF WHAT I TRY TO SUGGEST HERE IS THAT THIS IS JUST AN INDICATION OF THE NATURE OF THE POLITICS THAT HE HIMSELF REPRESENTS. >> I THINK THE FAVORITE QUOTE THAT YOU USED OFTEN IS THAT HE'S A SNAKE OILED SALESMAN? >> A CONFIDENCE MAN. >> WE SHOULDN'T BE NAME CALLING ANYWAY. >> THAT'S NOT NAME CALLING. >> OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A TAPE HERE. IT'S BEEN A FAST AND FURIOUS TRANSITION FROM OBAMA TO TRUMP. AND LET'S RECAP A LITTLE BIT. IT ALL STARTED OFF SURPRISINGLY CIVIL. DONALD TRUMP WAS RECEIVED AT WHITE HOUSE WITH AN OFFER FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA TO BE AS HELPFUL AS POSSIBLE. >> NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THE COMING TWO MONTHS IS TO TRY TO FACILITATE A TRANSITION THAT ENSURES OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT IS SUCCESSFUL. >> THEN THERE WAS THE ARGUMENT OVER WHOSE INAUGURATION CROWD WAS BIGGER, PRESIDENT TRUMP INSISTED THAT HIS WAS. THERE WAS A NO REFUTING THE MILLIONS WHO TOOK TO THE STREETS IN THE WOMEN'S MARCH THE DAY AFTER THE INAUGURATION ALTHOUGH MARCH CO-CHAIR TAMIKA MALLORY CAUTIONED OUR TAKE ON IT. >> SO THE ADMINISTRATION IS AN ISSUE. THERE ARE FIGHTS HAPPENING PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION GETTING INVOLVED. I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT THE FULL DISEASE. HE IS A SYMPTOM. THE DISEASE EXISTED BEFORE HE STEPPED ON TO THE STAGE. >> THINGS SEEMED TO DETERIORATE AS THE PRESSURE OF GOVERNING INCREASED. >> TO BE HONEST, I INHERITED A MESS. IT'S A MESS. >>PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RELATIONSHIP WITH BLACK AMERICA SEEMED TENUOUS AT THE START. WITH ONLY ONE BLACK CABINET MEMBER NAMED, DR. BEN CARSON AT HOUSING, THERE WAS A LACK OF DIVERSITY. HIS MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENTS OF THE NATIONS BLACK COLLEGE WAS CONTROVERSIAL WHEN SOME SAY IT WAS MORE PHOTO OPP THAN A REAL MEETING. THE INSTITUTION WAS LEFT WITH NO MORE FUNDS BUT A MOVE OF OVERSIGHT FROM EDUCATION TO THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE. >> MEETING WITH THE BLACK CAUCUS HIT A BUMP THE PRESIDENT SEEMED TO SUGGEST THAT APRIL RYAN, A BLACK WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT SHOULD BE THE ONE TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION. >> THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS AT THE- >> WELL I WOULD. YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU? WANT TO SET UP THE MEETING? DO YOU WANT TO SET UP THE MEETING? ARE THEY FRIENDS OF YOURS? SET UP THE MEETING. >> WHEN THE MEETING DID HAPPEN, MEMBERS PRESENTED THE PRESIDENT WITH THEIR PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA. THE TITLE, WHAT WE HAVE TO LOSE WHICH ANSWERS THE QUESTION CANDIDATE TRUMP OFTEN ASKS OF BLACK AMERICA, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE BY SUPPORTING ME SINCE THINGS ARE SO BAD UNDER OBAMA? TWO THINGS, FIRST JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT CHRISTINA SAID THE ONLY THING RADICAL ABOUT OBAMA IS HIS SKIN? >> I THINK THAT IS RADICAL AND THAT IS IMPORTANT AND NOT INSIGNIFICANT TO SAY. THEN I WATCH THIS- AND I THINK OF WHAT WHAT WE SAID BEFORE THIS IS NOT NEW. AND WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PANEL AND THE WAY FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THE WAY FORWARD IS THE WHITE SUPREMACIST AGENDA IS MY BACK STORY. AND SO THE WAY FORWARD IS TO POSSE UP. TRUMP IS NOT THE PROBLEM BUT HE IS PUSHING THE AGENDA THIS THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON. SO WE HAVE TO SORT OF GO IN DEEPER INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR CULTURES, OUR FAMILIES, OUR IDENTITIES AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY- >> DO YOU SEE THIS WAY FORWARD? HOW DO WE GET THROUGH THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? TURNING INWARD, SUPPORTING OUR FAMILIES AND OUR SOCIAL ACTIVITY. >> IF WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE NORM OF THIS COUNTRY -- >> YES, IT IS. >> -- AND THIS PARTICULAR PRESIDENT HAS EMBOLDENED PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT FOREFRONT, HE ALSO SAID IT'S OKAY TO BE THE SILENT MAJORITY NOW AND YOU CAN COME OUT AND SAY THESE THINGS. THEN NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO POSSE UP, WE ALSO NEED TO REST. BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG FIGHT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER -- I MEAN, WHO DO WE HAVE FOR 2020? THIS COULD BE AN EIGHT YEAR PLUS FIGHT, RIGHT? I MEAN THIS IS A MAN WHO IS ALLOWED TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL AS MY GRANDMOTHER SAID IF YOU LIE, YOU CHEAT, IF YOU STEAL, YOU LIE. HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO ALL THREE WITH NO REPRECUSHIONS AND THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND SOME DEMOCRATS WON'T STAND UP TO HIM. AS MUCH AS WE FIGHT, WE NEED TO SHARPEN OUR SWORDS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING GO AWAY BY SUMMER TIME. >> HOW HE IS GETTING AWAY WITH THIS? WHAT IS THE SECRET? WHY IS HE ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE NOT THE RIGHT THINGS TO BE DOING? >> I THINK IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE KIND OF REPUBLICAN CABAL HE WANTS TO HOLD ON TO THE REIGNS OF POWER IN ORDER TO DEEPEN THE HOLD ON WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THE PUBLIC COFFERS. THEY WANT TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY WANT TO PRIVATIZE PUBLIC EDUCATION. THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO FUNCTION SOLELY IN RELATION TO THEIR EFFORTS TO MAKE MORE MONEY. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT CABAL IS DOING THEIR WORK, THAT'S FINE. DONALD TRUMP CAN SAY ALL THE BOMBASTIC THINGS, AS LONG AS HE SIGNS THE LEGISLATION THAT IF THEY CAN COME TOGETHER THAT IF THEY CAN NAVIGATE THEIR OWN KINDS OF DIVISIONS, THEY ARE PERFECTLY FINE WITH HAVING A PERSON COMMITTED TO LYING AND CHEATING AND STEALING IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> WE HAVE A QUESTION IN THE AUDIENCE? >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH PEYTON. MY QUESTION IS TWO PARTS. IS TENSION DIVISION INHERENT IN OUR DEMOCRACY? AND HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THIS TENSION IN ANY POLITICAL STRATEGIES MOVING FORWARD? >> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ORIGIN OF THIS COUNTRY. SOUTHERNERS VERSES NORTHERNERS WE HAD ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTIONS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. AND OUR WHOLE DEMOCRACY IS BASED ON COMPROMISE. THE REASON WE HAVE UN-ELECTED JUDGES IS BASED ON- SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, IS BASED ON COMPROMISE. THE REASON WE HAVE TWO SENATORS FROM EVERY STATE, RHODE ISLAND AND CALIFORNIA, LIKE EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS BASED ON A SERIES OF COMPROMISES. 3/5'S OF BLACK PEOPLE WAS BASED ON COMPROMISE WITH NORTHERNERS AND SOUTHERNERS. AND SO AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS, THERE ARE THINGS CALLED FACTIONS. WE KNOW THAT. WE ALWAYS HAD FACTIONS. CAN YOU ARTICULATE TO VARIOUS FACTIONS FOR THE LARGER MISSION? FOR REPUBLICANS, FOR MANY OF THEM, IT'S ACTUALLY ROLLING BACK AN ENTIRE BARACK OBAMA EIGHT YEARS. AND SO THAT IS THEIR MISSION. THAT HAS BEEN THEIR MISSION FROM DAY ONE WHEN HE WAS SWORN IN ON JANUARY 20th, 2009. THEY DIDN'T SORT OF FULFILL THEIR MISSION IN FOUR YEARS AND SO THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY DO ALL THAT NOW. DEMOCRATS THOUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MINORITY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN ARTICULATE THEIR VISION TO A VERY DIVERSE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. RIGHT? WE SAW HILLARY AND BERNIE AND ALL THE SHADES IN BETWEEN. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 2018 LOOKS LIKE. I THINK ONCE DEMOCRATS IF THEY CAN GET THEMSELVES TOGETHER AND PUT FORWARD A VISION FOR AMERICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND ALSO PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE AND TAKE AWAY SOME SEATS DURING THE MIDTERM ELECTION, THEN I THINK SOME REPUBLICANS MIGHT REALIZE THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE LESS STABLE AND WILL BE A LITTLE MORE WILLING FOR CONVERSATIONS AND COMPROMISE WITH DEMOCRATS. >> I THINK ALSO IN TERMS OF DIVISIVENESS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY THAT THE COUNTRY IS MORE DIVISIVE NOW THAN IT'S BEEN IN HOWEVER LONG, PARTICULARLY REGARDING RACE AND BLACK AND WHITE. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THAT THERE IS CHOICE IN THAT DIVISIVENESS. YOU LOOK AT THE MARCH WHICH WAS DEMONSTRATEBLY WHITE WOMEN. AND THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MARCH WITH WHITE WOMEN RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO TAKE A BREATHER. THAT'S OKAY. AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE -- IF WE'RE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S CHOICE WITHIN THAT DIVISIVENESS THAT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY I DON'T LIKE YOU THAT'S NOT WHY I'M NOT DOING IT. YOU GO AHEAD AND THAT. I SUPPORT YOU IN THAT WORK. I'M NOT GOING TO THAT. THAT I'M GOING TO SIT THAT ONE OUT. >> REBECCA SAID SHE IS TAKING A BREATHER. DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH FOR NOW. I WANT TO GET TO THIS NATIONAL URBAN LEAGUE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE EQUALITY INDEX. HOW BAD ARE THINGS? HOW ARE WE DOING? IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY HAVE SORT OF DONE THIS THING. SO WHITES ARE AT 100% THIS IS WHERE BLACKS ARE. IN ECONOMICS, WE'RE 56.5%. IN HEALTH, 80%. IN EDUCATION, 78%. AT SOCIAL JUSTICE, 57.4%. AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, HERE WE ARE, REBECCA, YOU KNOW. WE ARE AT 100.6%. WE'RE REALLY ENGAGED. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF SAY THAT OUR HEALTH IS SUFFERING. OUR -- YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS SHY OF WHAT THE MAJORITY IS ENJOYING. SO IT'S NOT ZERO WHICH IS THE WAY IT'S INTERPRETED OFTEN THAT WE HAVE NOTHING. >> WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT DATA IS IT SHOWS OVER THE COURSE OF THE EIGHT YEARS OF OBAMA, OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY THAT, THERE WAS IMPROVEMENT. IN MOST OF THOSE INDEXES RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> BUT ONE AREA THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THAT, THE BLACKS ARE DOING TERRIBLY IS IN HOUSING. SO WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE HOUSING MARKET IN 2008 WE SAW OVER 250,000 BLACK PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES. THAT'S THE PRINCIPLE SOURCE OF BLACK WEALTH. THAT'S A REASON WE'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND GOING INTO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AN INCREASING THE GAP BETWEEN WHITE WEALTH AND BLACK WEALTH. AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IN SOME WAYS THE FAILURE OF PUBLIC POLICY TO ADDRESS THE RACIALIZED DIMENSIONS OF THE HOUSING CRISIS. AND OF COURSE THAT MEANS THAT MANY OF OUR FOLKS THAT WE LOVE HAVE BEEN THROWN INTO A BRUTAL RENTAL MARKET. WE'VE SEEN WAYS OF CONTRACTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AFFORDABLE HOUSING- ISN'T THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACE, BROOKLYN, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF SELLING YOU A BRIDGE WE CAN SELL YOU AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE IN BROOKLYN. BUT WE'VE SEEN THIS CONTRACTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WHAT WE'RE WITNESSING IN THIS MOMENT IS SOME IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK WHAT THE REPORT IS TRYING TO SUGGEST IS THAT GAINS THAT THE MODEST GAINS THAT WE MADE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST EIGHT YEARS CAN BE LOST OVER THE COURSE OF THE TRUMP YEARS. >> RIGHT. I LIKE THAT YOU EMPHASIZE THAT NOT EVERYBODY RECOVERED FROM THAT PARTICULAR DEPRESSION. >> WHEN PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT RECOVERY, WE WERE NOT RECOVERING AT ALL. >> A REMINDER TO OUR AUDIENCE, WE'RE LIVE ON FACEBOOK. WE WANT YOUR INPUT. SO SEND IN YOUR QUESTIONS. OUR HASHTAG IS #BLACKAMERICATOWNHALL. TRIED TO MAKE THAT SIMPLE. LONG BUT SIMPLE. LET'S GO TO ANOTHER TAPE. WE WANT TO CAUTION THAT THERE IS A BIT OF VIOLENCE IN THIS TAPE. A QUESTION MANY BLACK AMERICANS MIGHT ASK IS WILL WE HAVE JUSTICE IN A TRUMP AMERICA. >> ADD THE FACE OF 15-YEAR-OLD JORDAN EDWARDS AND THE LIST OF BLACK CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN KILLED INEXPLICABLY BY THE POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY. JORDAN LOST HIS LIFE WHEN A TEXAS OFFICER FIRED HIS SHOTGUN INTO A CARFUL OF TEENAGERS LEAVING THE SCENE OF A PARTY AT THE END OF APRIL 2017. JORDAN WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD. THE OFFICER ROY OLIVER WAS FIRED. HE ALLEGEDLY LIED ABOUT THE INCIDENT. AND SOME JUSTICE FOR THE FAMILY OF WALTER SCOTT WHOSE 2015 GUNNING DOWN IN THE BACK BY THEN SOUTH CAROLINA OFFICER MICHAEL SLAGER WAS CAPTURED ON VIDEO AND WENT VIRAL. A STATE JURY TRIAL DEADLOCKED BUT HE PLEAD GUILTY TO FEDERAL CHARGES OF VIOLATING SCOTT'S CIVIL RIGHTS WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. HE FACES LIFE IN PRISON AND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR FINE. ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS SIGNED OFF ON THE SLAGER FEDERAL PLEA BUT DECLINED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE STERLING CASE RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE TRUMP JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL HANDLE CASES OF POLICE ABUSE OR MISCONDUCT. STERLING WAS SHOT SIX TIMES BY TWO OFFICERS IN BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, LAST YEAR. HIS FAMILY EXPRESSED ITS DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE FEDERAL INACTION. AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THE NEW SUPREME COURT. NEWLY CONFIRMED JUSTICE NEIL GORSUCH HAS RESTORED THE 5-4 BALLOT IN FAVOR OF CONSERVATIVES. HIS FIRST VOTE, SIDING WITH FELLOW CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES IN DENYING A STAY REQUEST FROM ARKANSAS DEATH ROW INMATES FACING EXECUTION. HOURS LATER ONE OF THE MEN DIED FROM A LETHAL INJECTION. SO FOR THE NUMBERS, 345 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FATALLY SHOT BY POLICE IN 2017 SO FAR. WHEN YOU SEE THAT, WE DO WANT TO SAY THAT OFFICER, ROY OLIVER, HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH MURDER. AND THE FAMILIAR IS SUING THE CITY OUTSIDE OF DALLAS FOR NOT TRAINING THE POLICE OFFICER AND THIS IS THE CASE IN SO MANY INSTANCES WHERE IT CAN BE SAID THAT POLICE ARE JUST NOT UP TO THE CURRENT CHALLENGES FACING THEM. AND GOING AFTER, I WAS SHOCKED IN HOW MANY ARE SHOT IN MOVING VEHICLES. ALL THIS RAGE GOING ON BETWEEN DRIVERS AND PASSENGER AND POLICE IS REALLY YOU KNOW, A HEIGHTENED ISSUE. DID YOU WANT TO -- >> I MEAN IT IS AND IT ISN'T. WE DON'T SEE THIS HAPPENING TO WHITE AMERICANS. RIGHT? I MEAN LOUISIANA WHEN THE TWO -- THE BLACK AND LATINO OFFICERS SHOT INTO A CAR WITH A WHITE MAN AND HIS SON, THEY'RE ALREADY IN PRISON. THAT WAS QUICK FAST AND IN A HURRY. WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, WHY IS A POLICE OFFICER SHOOTING A SHOTGUN INTO A CAR? GET A LICENSE PLATE. THERE ARE SO MANY COURSES OF ACTION CAN YOU DO. AND THEN LYING ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE LYING. WE HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS AND CAMERAS WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY COUNTERACT THESE STORIES. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT WITH STERLING AND GARNER. EVEN IF WE CAN COUNTERACT, YOU KNOW, YOU WEREN'T TAPING FROM BEFORE THE STORY. SO NOW SELLING CIGARETTES OR CDs OR DRIVING AWAY FROM THE POLICE IS SUBJECT TO DEATH. RIGHT? >> AND IT'S NOT EVEN THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S JUST THE SKIN. IT IS AN IMMEDIATE REACTION THAT POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO BLACK AND BROWN SKIN. IT MEANS SHOOTING WITHOUT ANY KIND OF CONSEQUENCE. >> I THINK ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE WHAT THEY PRACTICE ON WHICH IS THE BLACK SILHOUETTE AND THERE IS SOME LEGISLATION TRYING TO GET THAT CHANGED. BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN PSYCHOLOGISTS IN A STUDY. THEY SEE THE BLACK SILHOUETTE AND THE BLACK SKIN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GO FOR. I ALSO JUST THINK IF YOU ALL YOUTUBE WHITE PEOPLE WITH COPS, YOU WILL SEE COPS PLEADING WITH WHITE BOYS, WHITE WOMEN, WHITE GROWN MEN WITH WEAPONS. PLEASE PUT THE WEAPONS DOWN. THESE ARE MINUTES AND NOTHING HAPPENS. EVERYTHING GOES AWAY PEACEFULLY AND THEY MAY GET ARRESTED OR A TALKING TO. >> RIGHT. >> WE WANT TO SAY THAT BLACK WOMEN, YOU KNOW, KIM CRENSHAW WITH SAY HER NAME, HAS DONE A WONDERFUL FILM ON ALL THE OTHER WOMEN WHO, BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE NEVER MENTIONED IN THESE STORIES THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO PAY MORE ATTENTION. TO WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT NEEDING A BREATHER. CAROL MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO MENTIONING THE NAMES OF BLACK AND TRANSGENDER AND SO FORTH. AND THERE'S A CERTAIN ISSUE THAT RELATES TO A SEPARATION AS REGARDS TO CREATING COALITIONS BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES AS THIS EFFORT MOVES FORWARD FOR BLACK PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. DO YOU THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A KIND OF A COALITION BUILDING AS REGARDS TO BLACKS AND WHITES AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THE AGENDA OF BLACK PEOPLE? BACK IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T -- IF THERE WASN'T A WHITE VOICE, THERE THE MOVEMENT WAIT A MOMENT HAVE HAPPENED. >> TALKING ABOUT ALLIES? >> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH IN THE CULTURE FOR THE PAST FIVE TO TEN YEARS. I SORT OF FEEL LIKE I'VE PUT THAT TIME IN WITH BUILDING ALLIES. YOU KNOW, I SAID EARLIER MY ORIGIN STORY IS THE BACKDROP OF WHITE SUPREMACIST AND SOME ASPECTS MORE INTENTIONAL THAN OTHERS. I WAS ADOPTED INTO A WHITE FAMILY. I HAD A WHITE BIRTH MOTHER AND BLACK BIRTH FATHER. THE BLACK FATHER WAS BANISHED FROM THE SCENE. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME SORT OF WORKING THROUGH THAT AND THEN SORT OF BUILDING ALLIES AND ALLIANCES IN MY ADULT LIFE AND NOW WITH MY SON. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO SEEK OUT WHITE ALLISHIP. I THINK THAT WHITE ALLIES WILL SHOW UP WHEN IT'S REAL. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THIS MOMENT IS A REASSERTION OF WHITENESS. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF AN INTENSIFICATION, INTENSE WHITE BACKLASH. AND THAT WHITE BACKLACK CAN BE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK IN TERMS OF OTHER THAN JUST SIMPLY BLACK VICTIMIZATION. >> YES. >> IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE IDEA THAT WHITE PEOPLE MATTER MORE THAN OTHERS. PART IT OF THAT EVOLVES IS TELLING THE STORY AND CALLING ATTENTION TO THE DANGER OF THOSE WHO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS WHITE PEOPLE. I HAPPEN TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAPPEN TO BE WHITE. I'M REALLY SKEPTICAL OF THOSE WHO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS WHITE PEOPLE. THIS IS MY CHANNELLING OF JAMES BALDWIN. RIGHT? AND IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS IDEA OF WHITENESS? IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SOCIETY THAT IS ORGANIZED, PREDICATED UPON THE ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE WHITE, THEY OUGHT TO BE VALUED MORE. AND THEN THE SOCIETY ARRANGES ITSELF IN ACCORDANCE TO THAT BELIEF. PART OF THE WORK WE HAVE TO DO IS TO ENGAGE IN THE DECONSTRUCTION NOT AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE BUT THE DECONSTRUCTION OF WHITENESS SO THAT WHITE WORKING CLASS WHO ARE CATCHING HELL AND BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE THAT ARE CATCHING HELL CAN FIND A WAY TO MOBILIZE, TO ORGANIZE, TO BRING PRESSURE ON THOSE WHO WANT TO EXPLOIT THEM ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> KEEP IN MIND, KING WASN'T KILLED WHEN HE WAS MOBILIZING BLACK PEOPLE. HE WAS KILLED WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MOBILIZING POOR PEOPLE. AND THAT'S BLACK FOLKS, WHITE FOLKS AND EVERYONE ELSE IN BETWEEN. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE IF YOU HAVE A COUNTRY NOT JUST BASED ON WHITE SUPREMACY BUT THE DOMINATION OF WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR AND EVERYONE ELSE AND WHEN THAT IS NO LONGER -- IT SEEMS LIKE A REALITY FOR A LOT OF WHITE FOLKS THAT IS REALLY SCARY FOR THEM. AND SO WHAT DOES AMERICA LOOK LIKE WHEN WHITE MEN CAN'T DOMINATE EVERYONE ELSE? RIGHT? IT IS WHOLLY IRRATIONAL FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO BE FEARFUL OF BLACK PEOPLE. IT IS WHOLLY RATIONAL FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO BE AFRAID OF WHITE PEOPLE. WE'RE IN THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE WHITE ARE REALLY AT A LOSS. AND I THINK EIGHT YEARS OF OBAMA HAS EXPOSED BLACK EXCELLENCE IN A WAY THAT IS REALLY EARTH SHATTERING TO A LOT OF WHITE FOLKS. >> MY FRIEND RUBY SALES SAID ONE OF THE WORDS WE NEED TO GET RID OF IS DIVERSITY BECAUSE IT RECOGNIZES THE SUPREMACY OF THE MAJOR POPULATION. AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT REDEFINING DEMOCRACY. THESE THREE PEOPLE WITH NO OPINION WHAT'S SO EVER HAVE BEEN GUESTS ON BLACK AMERICA. FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME, BLACK AMERICA IS A WEEKLY CONVERSATION WE BROADCAST EIGHT TIMES A WEEK HERE ON CUNY TV. WE'RE ONLINE ANY TIME, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE EVERY GUEST DO AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM IS TO FINISH THE STATEMENT, THE STRENGTH, POWER OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN AND HERE'S A SAMPLE OF THE ANSWERS WE'VE GOTTEN. >> ONE THING WE DO IS ASK THE GUEST TO FINISH THE SENTENCE. THE STRENGTH AND POWER OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN -- >> THE STRENGTH AND POWER OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN THE SOULS AND SPIRIT OF LITTLE BLACK GIRLS AND BOYS. >> THE POWER OF BLACK AMERICA I THINK RESTS ALMOST ENTIRELY IN ITS ABILITY TO SURVIVE ALL THAT IT HAS, ALL THAT WE HAVE AND STILL BE ABLE TO DANCE AND LAUGH AND ACHE AND FRACTURE AND REFORM AND BECOME SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL. >> IT LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND STAY TOGETHER. IT LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO ACT AND BEGIN TO ACT AS ONE. >> IN ITS CAPACITY TO SPEAK UNIVERSAL TRUTH TO POWER. WE OFTEN THINK OF BLACK PEOPLE SPEAKING FOR BLACK PEOPLE. BUT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY OFTEN SPOKEN TRULY FOR THE SIGNIFICANCE AND MEANING OF DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THEY FELT THE ABSENCE OF IT MORE THAN ANY OTHER POPULATION. >> AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE HERE TO KEEP THE UNITED STATES MOVING FORWARD. TOWARDS THE PROMISE THAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS LAID DOWN AND WERE NOT HONORING IN THEIR OWN LIVES. >> WHERE WOULD WE BE WITHOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSIC? VISUAL ART RIGHT NOW HAS A BIG PLATFORM IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SO CERTAINLY OUR CULTURE, OUR COOKING, YOU NAME IT. OUR STYLE, IT'S OUR PASSPORT TO THE WORLD AND THE WORLD'S PASSPORT TO US. >> AS A PEOPLE, WE ARE THE MOST TALENTED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. JAZZ, BLUES, SPORTS, SCIENTISTS. IF I HAD TO FOCUS ON ONE PERSON WHO I THINK SHOWED THAT, DR. RASCOE C. BROWN. THAT'S WHAT BLACK AMERICA IS. >> THE STRENGTH AND POWER OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN OUR OPTIMISM AND OUR EFFORT. >> OUR YOUTH. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO SEE POSITIVE EXAMPLES AND ROLE MODELS AND TO KNOW THAT THEIR POTENTIAL IS LIMITLESS AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE TO ALWAYS GIVE THEM WITH MY MESSAGING. >> I ENJOY TEACHING BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO REMIND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE OUR FUTURE. >> EDUCATION HAS TO BE A LOT MORE EQUITABLE. IT'S NOT ABOUT GIVING EVERYBODY THE EXACT SAME THING. BUT IT'S ABOUT GIVING EVERYBODY EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED. >> ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS OWN THE POWER THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, THE SPIRIT OF OUR ANCESTORS LIVES AND BREATHES IN US. THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY DID, CERTAINLY WE CAN. >> WE COME FROM A PEOPLE WHO OVER A WAY THAT WITH TEARS HAS BEEN WATERED. THEY TRAVELED ACROSS THE OCEANS. CRAMPED QUARTERS. UNBELIEVABLE DISHUMANITY. AND LOOK AT US. WE SURVIVED. WE THRIVED, WE INVENTED, WE WROTE, WE CHANGED THE STORY AND WE'VE HEADLED BODIES, WE RAISED CHILDREN. WE'VE RAISED THE BAR. THE STRENGTH OF BLACK AMERICA IS RESILIENCE. >> SO AND ALSO THE STRENGTH OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN OUR VOICES. AND YOU THREE CERTAINLY HAVE THE VOICES. WE NEED TWO OR THREE HOURS TO REALLY DO THIS, YOU KNOW? WE'LL HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN. BUT I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUTURE. YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, 2018, 2020. WHAT DO YOU SEE OR THE ANSWER IS NOT THERE IN THE ELECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. THAT'S BETWEEN THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTIES. I MEAN, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT SYSTEM STILL? OR AS SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE ON THE STREETS SAY, THAT'S OVER. AND WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER WAY. WHAT IS YOUR -- >> TO BE HONEST, I NEED TO JUST GET THROUGH THE FOUR YEARS. AS A PARENT, I HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY SON WHOSE GENERATION IS NOT GOING TO STAND FOR WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO HELP HIM INTERNALIZE THAT BELIEF AND REALLY SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. I'M REALLY ON A DAY TO DAY KIND OF THING. >> YOU KNOW, TO ME, ELECTIONS ARE ALWAYS THE LAST THING DO YOU IN A DEMOCRACY. EVERYTHING YOU DO PRIOR TO THAT, RIGHT, IS JUST AS IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOING INTO THE VOTING BOOTH. IF YOU ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING, I THINK REALLY WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, WITH THE ELECTION. WE HAVE TO LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CINCINNATI WITH YVETTE SIMPSON. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND YOU SEE ORGANIZERS BEGINNING TO CHALLENGE FOR THE POWER IN THE LOCAL SPACES. TO MY MIND, A LOT OF THE INNOVATION THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WILL ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. BECAUSE D.C. IS SO GUMMED UP. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO STEP OUTSIDE OF THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE HANDS OF WALL STREET. >> AS THE RESIDENT POLITICAL SCIENTIST, I BELIEVE IN PROTEST AND ELECTORAL POLITICS. I THINK WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON LOCAL, STATE, NATIONAL. I THINK WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2020. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS ELECTION THIS YEAR IN NEW YORK CITY. TWO, ACTUALLY. ONE IN SEPTEMBER AND ONE IN NOVEMBER. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHEN TO GO TO THE POLLS. ORGANIZATIONS LIKE COLOR OF CHANGE, THEY'RE GETTING DA'S THROWN OUT. THAT'S WHERE THE ACTION IS. WE'VE GOT MAYORS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHO IS GOING TO ALBANY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ALBANY WITH 3,000 VOTES AND CONTROL BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DECIDING EDUCATION FOR OUR KIDS, OUR BODIES, WHO WE CAN MARRY, ALL OF THESE -- HOUSING, ALSO, AS FAR AS BLACK FOLKS ARE CONCERNED, WE HAVE A LONG AND STRONG HISTORY OF GIVING TO THE CHURCH. WE DO NOT HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF POLITICAL GIVING. AND UNTIL WE SEE ALL THE PEOPLE IN D.C., WE SEE PEOPLE IN OUR STATE HOUSES THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT, THEN YOUNG PEOPLE OR WOMEN, ESPECIALLY WOMEN OF COLOR, WANT TO RUN, WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE MONEY. THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT THEY CAN'T WIN AND CAN'T BEAT THE SYSTEM. YOU HAVE STACY ABRAMS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA. THEY'RE BOTH AMAZING. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED MONEY. THEY NEED BLACK BODIES TO KNOCK ON DOORS, FLOOR TO FLOOR, BUILDING THE BUILDING. >> RIGHT. I THINK ANDREW GILLUM HAS RAISED A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS BEING PORTRAYED AS A LOT OF MONEY. THE GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA -- >> WE CAN ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO RACES THAT ARE NOT IN OUR OWN CITIES. WE CAN GIVE MISS SIMPSON $5 OR $10 TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO CORPORATE INTERESTS ONLY. BECAUSE WHEN SHE GOES INTO OFFICE, SHE'LL OWE THEM. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT KAMALA HARRIS AND CORY BOOKER AS POTENTIAL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES? >> LET'S BE CLEAR, JUST BECAUSE YOU -- JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A PERSON OF COLOR DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE THE POLITICS. >> ALL RIGHT. EDDIE IS GOING TO BE EXAMINING THE POLITICS. WE HAVE A QUESTION. YES? TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR QUESTION. >> HI, MY NAME IS CLAUDIA SCHYER. WHAT ABOUT THE ALL MALE AND ALL WHITE SENATE PANEL DETERMINING OUR HEALTH CARE? HOW DID WE GET HERE AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THEIR PRIORITIES ARE? >> I SAID BEFORE AND I'VE GOTTEN LOTS OF HATE MAIL ABOUT IT. THAT IS A DELIBERATE VISUAL. THAT IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST WHITE VISUAL. THEY WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THAT IT IS WHITE MEN IN CHARGE. THERE ARE NO WOMEN. THERE ARE NO PEOPLE OF COLOR, NO YOUNG PEOPLE. AND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HE IS A MASTER OF THE MEDIA, THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND IT IS ON TARGET ESPECIALLY FOR HIS BASE. >> DITTO. AND THERE ARE THREE THINGSS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT THEY CAN'T DO SIMULTANEOUSLY. ONE IS REPEAL OBAMA CARE. >> RIGHT. >> TWO, THEY WANT TO GIVE -- THEY WANT TO PROVIDE COVERAGE AT LOWER COST. THREE -- I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER IT. NONE OF THESE CAN HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE COVERAGE AT A LOWER COST, IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. YOU CAN'T DO ALL THREE OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SETTING UP THE TAX CUT FOR THE RICH AND WEALTHY COMING DOWN THE PIKE. PERIOD. >> AND A LOT OF PLACES WHERE PROGRAMS ARE BEING CUT, BLACK WOMEN ESPECIALLY ARE BEING IMPACTED. >> AND PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP. >> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT NEW. LOOK AT THE NEW DEAL. FDR SOLD BLACK WOMEN DOWN THE RIVER QUICKLY. BUT IT'S FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY. THE THING IS TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE NOT GOING TO WAIVER. THEY BELIEVE IN THIS MISSION. THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE MISSION. THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS 1952 AND COALS COMING BACK. THAT IS WHAT WHITENESS -- THEY ARE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT? THEY'VE HAD EIGHT YEARS OF HAVING THIS BLACK MAN AND ALL THE BLACK EXCELLENCE AND THESE BLACK PEOPLE ALLEGEDLY GOT EVERYTHING FOR FREE. HE'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING, NO, NO. LET'S GO BACK TO LIKE WHEN WE RULED THE ROOST. RIGHT? HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO THAT? COALS DEAD BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING. THE SAME WAY OBAMA SOLD HOPE AND CHANGE, TRUMP IS SELLING IT IN A DIFFERENT PACKAGE. HE IS SELLING IT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. >> THE RECENT SURVEY FROM THE ATLANTIC SURVEY SHOWS THAT TWO-THIRDS OF WHITE AMERICA, TWO-THIRDS OF WHITE AMERICA SAY THAT AMERICA LOST GROUND SINCE 1950. NOW A LARGE NUMBER OF THE FOLKS WHO VOTE FOR TRUMP ARE EXPERIENCING CULTURE ANXIETY. CULTURAL ANXIETY DROVE THE VOTER, NOT ECONOMIC ANXIETY. >> AND CULTURE ANXIETY, THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING BROWN. >> IT'S A DEEP ANXIETY ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY'RE TALKING OF THE BROWNING OF AMERICA. IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING. >> WHAT IS CULTURE IN AMERICA WITHOUT BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE. WE ARE CULTURE IN AMERICA. >> CULTURE. >> SORRY. ALSO, JANE JUNN'S DATA, JANE JUNN FROM USC, SHE SHOWED FROM 1952 TO 2016, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION WHITE WOMEN HAVE VOTED FOR A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO YEARS. '64 WITH LBJ AND '96 CLINTON. SO WHITE WOMEN HAVE BEEN UPHOLDING THIS AGENDA FROM THE BEGINNING. THE FACT THAT HILLARY CLINTON WASN'T ABLE TO GET WHITE WOMEN THAT, SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A SHOCK. >> AND THE AVERAGE INCOME OF A TRUMP SUPPORTER WAS $72,000. >> YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR US FROM FACEBOOK? >> WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GALVANIZE THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THE FORMAL POLITICAL PROCESS GIVEN THEIR LONG HISTORY OF DISENFRANCHISEMENT? THAT IS FROM GAYLE PITMAN. >> ALL RIGHT. WE PARTICIPATE MORE ESPECIALLY IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. WE ARE ACTUALLY MORE PARTICIPANTORY. >> BUT BLACKS AS A WHOLE. IN THIS LAST CYCLE, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN. NOW THAT THEY'RE COUNTING. >> VOTER ID LAWS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE. >> EXACTLY. >> THEY WENT TO THE POLLS WITHOUT THE FULL PROTECTION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. >> THE SUPREME COURT FOUR YEARS AGO SAID STATES COULD DO THAT AND IN FACT, THEY ARE DOING IT. THEY'RE REQUIRING IN SOME CASES CITIZENSHIP, PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. NOT JUST WHERE YOU LIVE AND -- >> SO YOU CAN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IN VIRGINIA. YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED IN NORTH CAROLINA AND WHAT HAPPENED IN WISCONSIN WITHOUT KEEPING TRACK. AND THE DATA IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. WHEREVER THERE WERE VOTER ID LAWS, YOU SAW A DEPRESSION IN BLACK VOTER TURNOUT. >> CAN YOU USE YOUR GUN ID AND NOT SCHOOL ID IN TEXAS. I MEAN THESE ARE VERY CLEAR AND DELIBERATE WAYS IN WHICH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN IN CAHOOTS WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE AND LATINOS ARE REMOVED FROM THE POLITICAL PROCESS. THIS GOES BACK TO EDDIES POINT. YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT SPEAKS TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, RIGHT? SO THE QUESTION IS WAY TOO SOON IN 2020. THEY HAVE NOT COME INTO THE COMMUNITY YET TO MAKE THEIR CASE TO BE CLEAR. SO WE CAN'T JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, CORONATIONS DON'T WORK. WE NEED CAMPAIGNS. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU, YOU KNOW -- >> I TOLD YOU SHE WAS IN DEMAND. EVEN THOUGH SHE DOES GET THE HATE MAIL FOR IT. >> WE HAD SOME GREAT GUESTS ON BLACK AMERICA. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT A WAY FORWARD WHEN WE COME OUT OF THIS CLIP. OPAL TOMETI, ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF BLACK LIVES MATTER HAS FIVE THINGS TO DO TO SURVIVE THE TRUMP ERA. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF WE CAN, COURTESY OF MIC. >> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WONDERING WHAT THEY SHOULD DO SINCE TRUMP HAS BEEN ELECTED. HERE ARE FIVE THOUGHTS. MY NAME IS OPAL TOMETI. I'M A HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, CO-FOUNDER OF BLACK LIVES MATTER AND THE BLACK ALLIANCE FOR JUST IMMIGRATION. LET'S NOURISH OURSELVES WITH WORDS FROM OUR ANCESTORS. ELLA BAKER TELLS US, WE WHO BELIEVE IN FREEDOM CANNOT REST. SITTING BULL SAYS, LET US PUT OUR MINDS TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT KIND OF FUTURE WE CAN MAKE FOR OUR CHILDREN. AND GRACE LEE BOGGS SAYS, BUILDING COMMUNITY IS TO THE COLLECTIVE AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE IS TO THE INDIVIDUAL. SECOND, LET'S REMAIN EXPLICIT THAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR RACIAL JUSTICE WITH AN INTERSECTIONAL LENS. WE WILL CENTER AND SHOW UP FOR BLACK, BROWN, NATIVE, MUSLIM, IMMIGRANT, LGBTQ, FOLKS WITH RECORDS, FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES, AND POOR COMMUNITIES. AND WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES FROM FASCISM, VIOLENCE, RHETORIC, AND POLICY THAT HARM US. THIRD, WE'LL RESIST CORPORATE TAKEOVERS OF MOTHER EARTH AND WHAT IS SACRED. AND WE'LL WORK TO MAKE VISIBLE THE SOVEREIGNTY OF NATIVE PEOPLE LIKE THE WATER PROTECTORS AND OUR KIN IN FLINT. FOURTH, WE MUST PERFECT THE ART OF ORGANIZING PEOPLE. IN PERSON AND IN PUBLIC SPACES. IF YOU ARE NOT ORGANIZED, FIND YOUR PEOPLE. FIFTH, WE MUST KNOW OUR RIGHTS. OUR ORGANIZATIONS AND FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE HAVE BEEN THREATENED. ORGANIZERS HAVE BEEN JAILED AND WE'RE LIVING UNDER EXTREME SURVEILLANCE IN A NATIONAL SECURITY STATE. WE MUST ENSURE OUR SECURITY ONLINE AND OFF LINE. IF YOU'RE WHITE, YOUR WORK IS TO ORGANIZE OTHER WHILE PEOPLE TO DONATE AND CHALLENGE WHITE SUPREMACY. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN MELANIN SPACES, LEARN TAKE DIRECTION FROM US. WE'LL SHOW YOU WHEN AND HOW WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL WE BUILD A MULTIRACIAL DEMOCRACY THAT EMBRACES THE FULLNESS OF OUR SPIRITS AND HUMAN EXPERIENCE. >> AND THAT WAS OPAL TOMETI. BLACK LIVES MATTER. THREE WOMEN WHO REALLY GOT US GOING AND OF COURSE THE MARCH ORGANIZERS AS WELL. SO THE WAY FORWARD FOR EACH OF YOU? I KNOW THAT SHE MENTIONED WATER FLINT, REVEREND BARBER. WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL MAN WHO TALKS ABOUT THE WEAPONIZING OF WATER AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN MANY URBAN AREAS AFFECTING MOSTLY BLACK PEOPLE THAT THEIR WATER IS KILLING THEM. SO WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE WAY FORWARD? >> YOU KNOW, I LOVE AND RESPECT OPAL. SHE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. I TRY NOT TO USE THE WORD ALLY. ALLY DOESN'T IMPLY THAT CAN YOU COME IN AND LEAVE. I LIKE THE WORD ACCOMPLICE. ACCOMPLICE IMPLIES THAT YOU HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME IS HAPPENING YOU TO AS WELL. WE RISE AND FALL TOGETHER. I THINK GOING BACK TO WHAT REBECCA SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LONG AND ARDUOUS JOURNEY THAT WE'RE IN. I CAN'T DO ALL THE WORK. IT'S NOT ABOUT BLACK WOMEN CONTINUING TO DO ALL THE WORK. PEOPLE NEED TO ALSO STEP UP. NOT JUST TAKE DIRECTION BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE CLEANING THE HOUSE, MOM, WHAT SHOULD I DO. LOOK AROUND. THERE IS PLENTY TO DO. LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR ACCOMPLICES NEED TO DO. I DON'T NEED TO KEEP TELLING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. RIGHT? I AM WORKING. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE PIECE WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF WHITE SUPREMACY IS -- IT HAS NEW ELEMENTS TO IT. WHI SUPREMACY IS NOT NEW. THIS PARTICULAR GRADE OF IT IS A LITTLE BIT NEW. AND SO WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE KNOW IT BUT WE STILL NEED TO LEARN IT AND STUDY SO IT WE CAN THEN FIGHT IT. >> THE LESSON WAS ENVOEKED IN -- THE LESSON CAN BE FOUND IN THE INVOCATION OF MISS ELLA BAKER. THERE IS A RADICAL DEMOCRATIC VISION THAT SHE EXEMPLIFIES. THERE IS A FAITH IN THE CAPACITIES OF ORDINARY PEOPLE THAT WE'RE THE LEADERS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS THAT CONFRONT US RIGHT WHERE WE ARE. I THINK IT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO OPAL'S LIST IS YOU GOT TO KEEP TRACK OF THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS THAT EFFECT THE LIFE CHANCES OF PEOPLE. PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE WE CARE MOST ABOUT. IF WE'RE NOT ENGAGED IN AN ONGOING CRITIQUE OF THE ECONOMIC REALITIES AND MATERIAL REALITIES THAT CUT SHORT THE LIFE CHANCES OF FOLKS, WE'LL FIND OURSELVES BEING COMPLICIT. WE WILL HAVE DEBIT CARDS WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER ON IT. WE'LL BECOME COMMODITIES. WE'LL FIND OURSELVES IN THE CIRCUITRY OF THE MARKET. REPRODUCING THE VERY MATERIAL CONDITIONS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR OPPRESSION. >> AS I SAID EARLIER, FIND YOUR PEOPLE. POSSE UP AND STAY ALIVE AND PROTECT CULTURE AND GALVANIZE OUR GRIEF AND MOVE FORWARD. >> AND LASTLY, READ. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> LISTEN, THIS HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC DISCUSSION. I THANK ALL THREE OF YOU. JUST AMAZING. COME BACK ON THE SHOW INDIVIDUALLY AND THERE IS ANOTHER TOWN HALL. TO OUR AUDIENCE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOUR QUESTIONS WERE GREAT. YOUR PARTICIPATION IS GREAT. AND TO OUR FACEBOOK VIEWERS, WE WANT TO THANK YOU OUT THERE AS WELL. I'M CAROL JENKINS. THE PROGRAM IS BLACK AMERICA. AND WE WILL SEE YOU THE NEXT TIME. ♪ [THEME MUSIC] ♪

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