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2014 Wyoming Secretary of State election

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Wyoming Secretary of State election, 2014

← 2010 November 4, 2014 (2014-11-04) 2018 →
Turnout65.05% Decrease 3.13%
Secretary of State Ed Murray.jpg
Nominee Ed Murray Jennifer Young Howard "Kit" Carson
Party Republican Constitution Libertarian
Popular vote 119,772 18,918 16,858
Percentage 69.98% 11.05% 9.85%

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County Results

Secretary of State of Wyoming before election

Max Maxfield

Elected Secretary of State of Wyoming

Ed Murray

The Wyoming gubernatorial election of 2014 took place on November 4, 2014. The incumbent Secretary of State, Max Maxfield, chose not to run for reelection. Real estate investor Ed Murray defeated Jennifer Young and Howard "Kit" Carson of the Constitution and Libertarian parties without any opposition from the Wyoming Democratic Party with 69.98% of the vote. However, despite losing the Republican primary Edward Buchanan would later be appointed Secretary of State after Murray`s resignation.

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- Good evening, I'm Dale Bohren, executive of the Casper Star Tribune. Welcome to the 2016 US Representative General Election Debate sponsored by Wyoming PBS, Casper College, and the Casper Star Tribune. We're in the beautiful Wheeler Music Concert Hall and the campus of Casper College. I wanna thank our readers, viewers, and listeners of the sponsors from across Wyoming who submitted topics and questions for tonight's debate. A three person panel use those submissions to curate and prioritize some of tonight's questions. The question panel for tonight's debate is Craig Blumenshine, public affairs producer for Wyoming PBS. Erich Frankland, chairman of the political science department at Casper College, and Bob Beck, news director of Wyoming Public Radio. Thank you for being here. This will be a classic debate with opening and closing statements, each candidate will answer direct questions and have the opportunity to respond or comment on other candidates' questions. The question panel may ask for clarifications or otherwise interact with the candidates. The candidates have agreed to pre-negotiated rules for the debate in which the moderator has total discretion to settle any dispute. We would ask you, the audience, to refrain from applauding or heckling during the event, so that we can best use the short time allotted for this important debate. Position on stage and the order for opening statements and questions were determined by drawing names from a hat 15 minutes prior to this debate, and now it is my honor and pleasure to introduce to you, from left to right, using introductions submitted by the candidates, and the candidates running for the Wyoming lone seat in the US House of Representatives and on this stage for this debate, Liz Cheney is a fourth-generation Wyomingite. She attended Park Elementary and Dean Morgan Junior High here in Casper and today, she lives in Wilson with her husband and five kids. She is a mother, author, and former Fox News contributor who has practiced law and served in the State Department focusing on US policy in the Middle East. She is a member of the International Board of Advisors at the University of Wyoming, and has also served as the chairman of Keep America Safe, a nonprofit organization that was instrumental in preventing the transfer of terrorists to the United States. On her left is Ryan Greene. Ryan Greene helped turn one welding truck into a 250 employee energy services company. Today, Greene's energy service provides labor and construction to all of Wyoming's energy producers from the coal mines to the oil patch. Over 18 years, Ryan Greene worked from welder to operations director of the company. Ryan's wife, Lindsey, works in a Wyoming public school and the company are proud to raise their own two children in their hometown of Rock Springs. On Ryan's left is Lawrence Struempf. Lawrence is a moderate libertarian who believes in protecting our individual liberties while cutting government waste. He was raised on a cattle ranch west of Riverton and graduated from the University of Wyoming. He has worked for Fortune 500 companies, incorporated and managed his own corporation, and worked for the government. Mr. Struempf has been an active leader in the community and around Wyoming. He is actively involved with Rotary and Kiwanis as well as other organizations that work to make the nation and Wyoming a better place. And finally, on your far right, Daniel Cummings. On his website, Daniel Cummings of Casper says he's been fascinated by the Constitution of the United States since his older childhood and began a serious and in-depth study of it at the age of 14 that has continued to present. This study has included constitution history, constitutional law, current events concerning the problems of our time, foreign policy, and the challenge of America's enemies and the sound free market economies of its enemies. That study has never ceased and continues today. Daniel Cummings has learned much in recent years and continues to grow by years in his understanding of America's problems both foreign and domestic. Our candidates for the US House of Representatives. (audience applauding) We'll begin tonight's debate with opening statements by the candidates, 50 seconds, Mrs. Cheney. - Well, thank you very much, Dale, it's wonderful to be here. It's very fitting be here tonight. This is the 20th candidate forum that we've had now that I've participated in in the last eight and a half months since we launched our campaign in Gillette back in February and it's been an amazing eight and a half months, and as I've talked to thousands of you all across the state, it's absolutely clear to me that there's no question, but that Wyoming has been hurt more than any other state by the last eight years of this presidency, and we have to make sure that we send to Washington a representative who will be able to lead a national effort to roll back the damage that's been done, to undo the devastating policies, somebody who will fight on behalf of our constitution, of our second amendment rights, somebody who will never give in, some who will never compromise, but who will be an unyielding defender of our rights and our freedoms in Wyoming, thank you very much. - Mr. Greene. - Hi, everyone, I'm Ryan Greene. Thanks to our sponsors for making this possible and thanks to the audience for skipping Thursday Night Football. So, I'm a Wyoming democrat, but I don't agree with every democrat and I won't defend every democrat. I only agree with one person 100% of the time, that's my wife, Now, I run a small business and I felt the impact of overreaching government policies, that's why I'm in this race. Now, folks, anyone can trash-talk the president and parties, but that's not the job that we're applying for. Wyoming has one US House seat and we need a congressman that knows our industries from the inside, a homegrown official that we know will represent our people, defend our way of life, and work for Wyoming values not New York donors or DC bureaucrats, thank you. - My name is Lawrence Struempf. I grew up on a cattle ranch near Riverton. First of all, I'd like to thank Casper Star, Casper College, and Wyoming PBS for sponsoring this debate. I have a bachelor's degree from the University of Wyoming, computer science and a master's in management. I'm a single father and I'm a teacher. I'm moderate libertarian who believes in less government and more liberties similar to 1970s, 1980s republican. I believe the biggest problem in our country and in our government is a broken two-party system 'cause regardless of what they believe in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, they always seem to be suaded to do what their party tells them to do and I believe that as a libertarian party would be the strongest and best third party in our nation, and as a libertarian candidate, yeah. - [Bohren] Mr. Cummings. - My name is Daniel Cummings. I represent the Constitution Party of the United States and of Wyoming. I'm a candidate for congress, the House of Representatives. The Congress of the United States is the body charged by the Constitution with solving national problems. The Congress should give us answers that are best for the country as a whole, I believe that I have that national viewpoint, I have lived in the east and in the west, in the north and in the south, in the mountains, in the plains, in republican states and democratic states, and in Washington itself, and I've lived many years here in Wyoming, my favorite state, where I have lived, and I've lived here long enough to understand Wyoming's needs also and how to stand against the oppression of our federal government, thank you. - Thank you all and good luck, here's the first question for Liz Cheney from Craig Blumenshine. - Thank you, Dale. Ms. Cheney, in the republican primary debate on this stage, you said the following, "People who have been in the state legislature "for many years have got to explain to the people of Wyoming "how it is that we are at a crisis moment," what mistakes were you referring to that the Wyoming legislature has made that has caused Wyoming to be in this, as you say, crisis moment? - I think that the issue that we're facing today and we're in the general election now, as you know, not the primary, but in the primary, I had opponents who were arguing that they were gonna go to Washington and make change and my point was simply you have to look at somebody's record in the state legislature in order to know whether they're really gonna be able to make change. Where we are today is a different situation in terms of this general election and the choice for the people of Wyoming is very different, the choice now is whether we're gonna send to Washington someone who every single day will fight on behalf of our rights and our freedoms to roll back the federal government or whether we're gonna send somebody, my opponent to my left, who caucus for Bernie Sanders and who now has endorsed Hillary Clinton both of whom want to end the extraction of all fossil fuels on our federal lands, but that's the decision that people need to make today. - You said that the state legislature for many of years, those people need to explain to the citizens of Wyoming, what mistakes were you referring to? - Well, there were several. I think SF 104 was one of the key ones. I think that that bill, which two of my opponents in that race were fundamental to supporting, stripped away the constitutional rights of the people of Wyoming, when they took away the power of the people to elect the superintendent of public instruction, they stripped the duties out of that office, that was only one. I think that the key point though is who's going to make change, and people who are watching tonight who are deciding between those of us on the stage have to understand the very real choice they have between someone who will be able to bring a national focus and attention to our issues, somebody who will fight on behalf of our fossil fuel industry versus someone who's endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. - Well, if I may, I was at that debate and I watched that and in Ms. Cheney's opening statement she blamed our economy on the president and then in her closing statement, she blamed our state legislature, and so it's clear that I believe Ms. Cheney will blame anybody that's around. Now, look, I work in the industry, I work in the coal industry, so certainly, I have absolutely no intent of harming our fossil fuel industry regardless of what Ms. Cheney says. - Well, my opponent may have no intent, but he's endorsed Hillary Clinton and Hillary Clinton was asked whether she would support a ban on the extraction of fossil fuels from all federal lands and her answer was two words, "That's a done deal." Now, that ban by the candidate that you've endorsed for president will cost this state 32,500 additional lost jobs, it will cost us over $800,000 in royalties, it will be devastating to this state, so you can say that you understand the industry, but in my view, the fact that you work in the industry and you don't believe there's a war on coal and you supported Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, calls your judgement into serious question. - Absolutely not, well, first of all-- - This next question, time is up for that question, I'm sorry. The next question is for Ryan Greene-- - [Struempf] Don't I get to respond to that question? - You missed your opportunity to respond, but you know what, we'll make an exception, if you would like to, part of what we agreed to before was that it's not an automatic response, if you want to respond, you have to catch my eye and I will make sure that I recognize you. - [Struempf] Okay. - As Mr. Greene did, but in the interest of fairness since this is the first debate for Mr. Struempf, Mr. Struempf, would you like to respond? - I was gonna say I've worked a lot with our state house and state senate representatives and I think that they're doing a very good job and I have great respect for them and those who are in my community, it's the federal government we need to really work on and try to break the partisan divide. - Okay, and Mr. Cummings. - Most of the problems with the coal industry are coming from Washington from overreach of a government that's out of control, only minimal, if any, problems from the coal industry are coming from Cheyenne. - Does everybody understand now? - [Cummings] Yes. - Next question is for Ryan Greene from Erich Frankland. - Mr. Greene, with the recent economic downturn, a lot of attention in Wyoming's been focusing on the loss of energy sector jobs, but many people in Wyoming work in service jobs, and recently, Congress, yet again, failed to address the minimum wage issue, how would you address minimum wage and related wage concerns for Wyomingites who aren't in the energy sector? - Yeah, certainly, the minimum wage, I believe needs to be increased. Now, the federal minimum wage has not been increased since 2009 and a lot of folks believe that this is an issue of entry-level jobs, but it's not, especially in Wyoming's economy, we have folks that are coming in from the oilfields and the mines that can't find any other jobs, and not every company is Walmart, so I think we need to, the mission of our next congressman, we need to have those discussions where we are providing a livable wage without crippling small businesses and I believe we need to start the discussion at $10 an hour. - I also agree that we need to increase the minimum wage, I was thinking $12 is what they show would be an acceptable livable wage for 40 hours a week nationwide. - Mr. Cummings. - I believe in the free market, wages should be determined by negotiation between employers, employees, and the marketplace in general. There is no constitutional authority for Congress to meddle in the marketplace and this welfare mentality, it's entirely out of line. - [Bohren] Ms. Cheney. - I think it would be a disaster for the economy if we mandated an increase for the minimum wage, what we need to do is roll back the federal government, we need to get the regulation off of our back, We need to get back to a place where we've got pro-growth economic policies, so that people are able to keep more of their own money, we've gotta repeal Obamacare, we need to reduce taxes, we need to create a situation where jobs are coming back to our state because our energy industry is off of its back and the federal government is out of the way, but we should not be mandating an increase in the minimum wage. - [Bohren] Okay, and 30 seconds for a followup. - Well, I believe that we do need to increase the minimum wage at least 2% to keep up with inflation. Look, we have folks working 40 hours a week that can't make it and so we need to have a balance between doing what's right, providing a livable wage, but without crippling our small businesses or doubling their payroll, and it starts with a discussion. - Okay, next question is for Lawrence Struempf from Bob Beck. - Mr. Struempf, what do we do about equal pay for equal work and is there a realistic solution at the federal level? - I believe I strongly in pushing more of the control from the federal level to the state level and so, as US representative, I would not have the United States address that as much. It is important that people are treated equally and get fair wages. Some of the issues that I work with is where you don't have as many women, perhaps, in a certain job sector and that varies, and so if you have one area that pays more and there aren't as many women in it, it's gonna influence that, but for the same job, it is logical that they should receive the same pay. - [Bohren] For followup, Mr. Cummings. - No two people are alike. There is no such thing as equal work for any two persons, people are different, they find their value in the marketplace, these matters should not be dictated by a fascist control-freak congress in Washington, they should be dictated by the free market, by free interchange and negotiations. - [Bohren] Mr. Greene? - Yes, I believe we need equal pay for equal work. Wyoming has in the gender wage, we're the second highest gender wage gap out there. Now, look, this is the equality state, we need to move beyond a slogan and actually back it with action, and we own an energy services company and it doesn't matter if you're a woman or man, if you provide that service, you get equal pay, and so I would support a constitutional amendment for equal pay for equal work, it's the right thing to do. It's 2016, we need to roll up our sleeves and get this done. - Ms. Cheney? - I think we all on this stage agree that people outta be paid equally for the jobs that they do, but I think that the statistics that are driving this debate are fundamentally flawed, they come from the Census Bureau, they don't take into account anything in terms of the types of jobs people are working, who leaves the work force, the types of training we're providing people, I mean, here in our own home state, it tends to be men, nine out of 10 accidents in the workplace, injuries in the workplace happen to men. They take on jobs, in many cases, that are more dangerous and there's a pay differential for that. I don't think the government should be involved in mandating pay. I think that's something that outta be negotiated between employers and employees and the government doesn't have any business being in the middle of it. - Okay, would you like a followup? - No, I agree. - Okay, our fourth question goes to Daniel Cummings from Craig Blumenshine. - Mr. Cummings, 13% of Wyoming's children and 10% of all Wyoming residents live in poverty. In this country, there are 43 million people that are living in poverty, what should Congress do about that? - Congress has no constitutional authority to deal with poverty. Poverty belongs to state governments and to charitable institutions. We have had a war on poverty since the days of Johnson and we have more poverty now than we did then, the more deeply the federal government gets involved in so-called improving poverty, the worse the situation gets. - Ms. Cheney. - I think this is a very important question and I think as a nation, we have an obligation to do everything we can to lift people out of poverty and I think as republicans, we have an obligation to do a better job at explaining why it is free enterprise, why the free enterprise system, why policies that allow people to keep more of their own money, so they can invest, why lowering the tax burden and the regulatory burden are the exact policies that will create jobs and economic growth, that's what we need to do about poverty is create opportunity in this nation and in this state, and in this state, the best solution to poverty and budget issues is to unleash the unbelievable resources we have in our fossil fuel industry, that today are being really strangled by the Obama administration. - Mr. Greene. - Well, I believe the first practical step and my campaign's always been about practical solutions not big promises, so I believe one big or the first practical step that we can do is raise the minimum wage, and I think that's realistic, it's achievable, and we can get that done. It's a bipartisan issue, we need to go to work, roll up our sleeves and get it done. - And I believe that we need to do a mixture of both. We need to build the economy, so that there are jobs out there. Many of the people who are unemployed and living in poverty are there 'cause they've lost their jobs, and so if we can work to help the energy industry and other things to foster the economy, we can help resolve poverty. - [Bohren] Mr. Cummings, would you like a followup? - Thank you. The free enterprise system that we have in America has blessed us with wealth that is absolute unimaginable to people throughout history of the world up to about 50 years ago, the poor today live better than the rich in the past 6,000 years, and the reason is the free market not government action. - Thank you, the next questions is for Ms. Cheney from Erich Frankland. - Ms. Cheney, there's a call for a balance between needed environmental and health protections for Wyoming and the United States, but also promoting economic development for Wyoming and the United States, how do you see that balance? - I don't think that the two things are in conflict. I think that what's happened today is we've had radical environmentalist in too many instances who have really captured agencies like the EPA, who have captured pieces of legislation like the Endangered Species Act, and who are exploiting those in order to end all productive use of our land, and in some instances, to end all human use of our land. I think the reality is if you visit a coal mine and you see the area that's been reclaimed, it's unbelievable, it's impressive, it is in many instances better than when we started. I think if you look at the stewardship of our farmers and our ranchers all across this state, they know best how to care for the land and the environment, and those are the issues that outta be controlled here, that outta be handled by our state DEQ, the EPA is doing far more damage today to our environment than good, and I think it needs to be severely restricted and the budget needs to be cut, and we need to make sure that we're doing everything we can to phase it out. - Mr. Greene. - Well, we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the land and the environment, but also protect our energy sector as well, and the folks that work in the energy sector, they hunt, they fish, they use the land, they're good stewards, so we can strike a balance. You look at what happened under Governor Dave Freudenthal, Governor Sullivan, they balanced energy development with conservation, we do a pretty good job of this in Wyoming and as your next congressman, I would do the same to strike a balance. Obviously, we can't cripple the coal industry, we need to have clean, oh, am I out of time, sorry. - [Bohren] You are. - I'm sorry. - [Bohren] Mr. Cummings? - I'm gonna go. - I was gonna say, go ahead if you want. - Yeah, I thought I'd, anyhow, we need clean air, we need clean water, so the EPA does need to have a certain level of control and management over it, but they, a lot of waste has occurred with the EPA overreaching and affecting regulations and so forth that influence production and the economy overall. - It's delusional to think we will get better environmental answers from Washington, from bureaucrats there who do not know our territory, do not know our state, do not know the region, do not know the nature here, the best answers will come locally and in our state from our legislature. Cheyenne, the state legislature, is the state to solve Wyoming's problems. - Would you like a followup? - Yes, the problem that we have today is that these federal agencies are not operating in good faith. They're not operating in a way that demonstrates that they really work together even to obey the law. If you look at the BLM, for example, they're supposed to manage for multiple use, but what's happening today instead is they are ignoring comments that are coming in from our cooperating agencies, they are listening to radical environmental groups and our lands are being destroyed, our resources are being destroyed, so this is an area where we have to ensure that we get control of those agencies and that we return authority for managing our land and our resources where it belongs which is in our local communities. - [Bohren] The next question goes to Ryan Greene from Bob Beck. - Mr. Greene, economists almost universally point to a carbon tax as the most market-friendly efficient way to address climate change. Many major energy companies are currently pushing a carbon tax including Shell, Exxon, and BP, do you support this and if not, how do you propose to address the problem of carbon emissions without a tax? - I do not support a carbon tax. I don't believe that the answer to our problems are to punish the producers of this. Look, I think we've got some of the best engineers in the world, I work with these folks every day, let them have a seat at the table, let's have a conversation between industry and the government because I believe that's the missing link, these folks can fix the problem. They go to work on it every day. Currently, right now, all of the coal standards have been met, so these folks can do the job, let them have the problem, let them take that, and let them reduce the emissions, they'll find the solutions without a doubt. - We need all of the energy we can get to grow America, to grow our economies, and natural gas is very clean, I cannot see us ever not wanting to use natural gas and so, the free market should pretty much work it out, we're very effective at having cleaner coal. I believe we should do more research on coal to liquid, so we can use it for diesel, but we need to let the free market work more and work more with exporting our natural resources. - Mr. Cummings. - Many good scientists don't buy the argument that carbon dioxide is the main cause of increasing temperatures. It has been noticed and fairly well established from T-rings, ice drillings in Antarctica, and otherwise that the sun has been going through 1500 year cycles of up and down and up and down about 750 years of each for 10s of thousands of years, we're in upswing now, it's going to get warmer because the sun is heating up and carbon dioxide is not going to have a very relevant part of that. - Ms. Cheney. - We are the target here in Wyoming absolutely of a war on coal and a war on fossil fuels is coming, and we cannot take the position that we're sort of all gonna try to work together because we know that this president and we know that Hillary Clinton and we know that Nancy Pelossi have decided they're gonna kill our coal industry, and we are feeling the impact of that every single day, so I believe we need legislation that prevents the EPA from regulating carbon dioxide as a pollutant. I believe we need to repeal the Clean Power Plan, we need to repeal the Mercury and Air Toxic Standards, and we need to return authority for managing these issues to the state because the EPA is devastating us. - I'm beginning to think you don't like the president. (laughter) Look, the reality is that a carbon tax is not the answer, but let energy fix energy, certainly not the government. - [Bohren] The next question is for Lawrence Struempf from Craig Blumenshine. - Mr. Struempf, what action will you take in your first year to reduce gun violence and mass shootings and as an extension to that, under the Obama administration, do you feel that your 2nd Amendment rights have been infringed? - I do not feel that my 2nd Amendment rights have been infringed. There haven't been that many issues that have been successful. Of course, Obama has had a House and a Senate to work with him, so even if he wanted to cause problems in that area, he was not allowed to. - So, what might you do to reduce gun violence and mass shootings? - Education. And of course, I believe in less federal government, more control at the state government, and so I really believe that that should be more at the state level, but then when you look at like Chicago has the strongest gun laws in the nation and yet they have the highest gun crimes, and so I don't think there's a direct correlation between gun regulation and gun crimes. - Mr. Cummings. - The founding fathers put the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution as a defensive liberty and self-defense, it was not about hunting, although, I have no animus against hunters, I think hunting is fine, but the key issue here is America's liberty. People who cannot defend themselves against tyrannical government are in danger of losing their freedom. Look at the Germans under Hitler, look at the Soviets under Stalin, and the Cambodians under Pol Pot, 10s of millions dead. - Ms. Cheney. - This is another issue that is really at stake in this election. Just last night in the presidential debate, Secretary Clinton criticized the Heller decision, that's the decision that was written by Justice Scalia that affirmed that we have an individual right to keep and bear arms, so my opponent can act like, gosh, we're all on the same page here, but we really aren't, and the fact that he's endorsed Hillary Clinton who will nominate and appoint benches or judges to the Supreme Court that will do everything they can to undo our 2nd Amendment rights is something that people need to be very focused on as we go forward in this campaign. - Look, I support the 2nd Amendment, my dad taught me to shoot and I'm teaching my kids how to shoot, it's about responsible gun ownership, and we do that here in Wyoming. My father-in-law has his licensed firearm dealer, he's a licensed firearm dealer, so of course I support it, but I do support background checks like we do here in Wyoming and I support no fly, no buy rule, which I'm not alone, both presidential candidates, which you've endorsed the other one, support that as well. - I was gonna say one thing that people don't seem to realize is that it's not just the ability to own guns, it's the ability to have access to ammunition and places to use your firearms. I know that when I grew up, my friends and I, every day after school, we'd go shoot 22s, you can't even buy 22 shells anymore, how better to stop people in the United States from learning how to use guns and firearms than get rid of 22 shells, so our children can't learn how to shoot properly. - Next question is for Daniel Cummings from Erich Frankland. - Mr. Cummings, in a recent forum in Jackson, former governor Mike Sullivan and former senator Al Simpson addressed the issue of civility and compromise being essential for democratic politics in the United States and lamented the rise of hatred in American politics today, so how would you respond to that assessment of American politics, do we need civility and compromise or should we pursue the path of hatred that's gotten so much attention recently? - I am dedicated to decreasing the power and interference of the federal government in the most civil way that we can possibly do it. As to compromise, compromises for the last 50 years have always been leftward, have always been more government, have always been more authority, have always been more rules and regulations, have always been more interference in our personal lives and in our businesses, I think it's time that compromises went the other way, let the left, the liberals compromise with less government, let's reduce the size, let them do some compromising, and let them be civil for a while. (audience applauding) - Mr. Struempf. - I believe that the biggest problem with our country is the two party system, we need a third party 'cause you got, the rights always gonna vote with the right, the party on the left is always gonna vote with the left, regardless of what is right, and we need a third party to break that and to bring them together, so a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, moderate libertarian party is the ultimate party for the United States to help get our government back on track. - [Bohren] Mr. Greene. - Well, certainly, this has been a staple of my campaign because we need to work together and the reality is that Wyoming's problems do not belong to either party, we want gun rights, but we want Medicaid expansion, too. We want to sell our coal, but we want to keep public lands in public hands. Senator Enzi recently called for a more bipartisan approach in Congress and I could not agree with him more because the legislative solutions will only come from those that are willing to work together. - I think it's-- (applause) - May I remind the audience that we've asked you to refrain from applauding just so we can keep the time for responses from the candidates. - I think it's very important for us to work together, but I also think it's very important for us to know where we stand and I think there are some issues on which we cannot compromise. I don't agree with no fly, no buy, I don't think the people's constitutional rights should be taken away from them without due process and that's what no fly, no buy does, it takes 'em away without due process. I also don't think that we outta put our public lands in Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi's hands which is what my opponent wants to do. I think there are some critical issues on which we gotta make sure we know where we stand and that we lead and build coalitions around those things that matter to us in this state, so we can defend out way of life and our rights and our freedoms. - [Bohren] You've had a followup, I'm sorry, would you like to followup, Mr. Cummings? - Can I have his? - Sure. - Thanks for asking. - Good try. - The next question is for Ms. Cheney from Bob Beck. - Ms. Cheney, I've been hearing you talk about climate change where your reference is Junk Science, I know you're not a big fan of the EPA, talking about dismantling it, do you favor any environmental regulation? - I do, Bob. I think that the kind of environmental regulation that happens at the state level is where it outta happen. When you talk about climate change, I think the important question for us to ask is whether those who accept the administration's set of beliefs, whether or not the policies they're putting in place have any impact on those, and even the EPA administrator admits that the Clean Power Plan which will kill our coal industry and the move to keep all of our fossil fuels in the ground which will kill the state, even if those things succeed, the effect on global temperature is negligible, and so then you have to ask yourself what is it they're trying to accomplish, and in my view, it is much more important for us to do all we can to ensure that we get access to our resources in a responsible way, so we can get the economy growing again and so we can bring jobs back to our-- - [Beck] But what kind of environmental regulation do you support? - Energy companies have made tremendous progress. I think that when you look at things like the rule for reclamation for example, when you look at the advances that have been made in clean coal technology already, I think that those things have been tremendously important, what I don't support is wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on renewables, we have to be for all of the above, but right now, these renewables are being subsidized in a way that makes it impossible for anybody else to compete and frankly, that is a complete loss of our taxpayer money. - [Bohren] Mr. Greene. - Ms. Cheney, that's kind of fascinating because one of your top donors is wind power and so you claim that you're going to help our coal industry, but Philip Anschutz, who owns the largest wind farm in America is one of your top donors, and so I don't believe you're gonna stand with our miners when you're funded by wind and so I don't believe that, but look, she calls it junk science, I stand with the 99% of scientists that says it's real and I also stand with former president George W. Bush, who said, "Global warming is caused "in large part by human activity. "I believe climate change is real "and that man has played a role in it." - [Bohren] Mr. Struempf. - I believe it is very important that we respect education in science and we look at what science says. At the same time, we need to do a cost-benefit analysis even if climate change is caused by man, how much effect will it have versus the economy. We're gonna have to use all the energy we can eventually. We need everything we can to help the world grow and so we need coal, we need natural gas, we need wind power, we need it all, and so anyhow, in order for us to grow, we need all aspects. - [Bohren] Mr. Cummings. - If the environmental science is so strong, why do these scientists treat minority dissenters so badly? Such as slashing tires at scientific conventions, changing history in Wikipedia and other activities that are hard to call civil in any way. We don't treat the flat-earthers that way, we ignore them. If their position is so strong, why do they treat their dissenters so abominably? - Thank you, your follow? - My opponent has just expressed a very typical liberal perspective which is not understanding the difference between saying we need to make sure that we're taking advantage of all of the above which I believe and saying we need to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayers' money to subsidize renewables. Now, somebody who's been working in energy industry and who says that we should elect him because he's been working in the energy industry, but then says there's no war on coal, it's not just that he doesn't think that you can take these issues on, he doesn't think we need to take 'em on, he seems to think everything is just fine. Now, not everybody in our state has the job security of being able to work in their parent's company for their whole career like my opponent, but it is a big thing in this state to make sure - not everybody was - that we defend ourselves - given a spot at - To make sure - at the State Department - we defend ourselves - because their father vice president. - [Bohren] Time's up. - I need to respond to that. It's very important - the next question that we make sure that we send somebody to Washington who is gonna fight for all of us not somebody who's decided all of the sudden that he's gonna stand up and say there's no war on coal, we're not gonna take on the democrats, we are at a crucial moment in the lives of the state - [Bohren] time's up. - and he seems unaware of that. - That's not true. - Time's up and we're moving on. Next question is for Ryan Greene from Craig Blumenshine. - Mr. Greene, where should Congress set the limits of surveillance by the US government on Wyomingites and really, in fact, all Americans? - [Greene] I didn't, could you-- - Where should Congress set the limits of surveillance by the US government on Wyomingites and really all Americans? - One more time, I can't hear, I'm sorry. - Where should Congress set the limits of surveillance? - Should they cut surveillance? - [Cheney] Where should limits? - [Blumenshine] Set the limits of surveillance by the US government-- - Thank you, thank you, I appreciate that. It's a large echo. I believe in privacy, this is a privacy issue, and we should not have surveillance on your phones and your tablets and your computers. I believe that you have a right to your privacy, you have a right to your information that's secured on your computers, and in no way should the government be allowed to take a look at this, so I completely believe in your right to privacy and that we should limit any surveillance. - I believe that having privacy is part of our rights as an American and I believe that the government has greatly overstepped their boundaries in surveillance, whether it be of our phone calls or emails or whatever else is monitored, I do not believe that that is within the constitution. - Mr. Cummings. - The right to privacy is a variation on the one great general right which is to be left alone, all other rights are variations on the right to be left alone. Most of what privacy is about is exactly that, the government has gone way beyond what is proper, what fosters liberty, and what fosters national security, and its present surveillance state, and should be cut back drastically. - [Bohren] Ms. Cheney. - We're at war, we're at war with radical Islam, and we absolutely have a right to our privacy, but I don't believe that terrorists have a right to make communications overseas to plot and to plan freely and I think that puts our nation at risk, and I think it's hugely important for us to make sure that we are using every element of our national armory in order to make sure that we can defeat those who are attempting to defeat us and to destroy our civilization, and I think that the notion that we are not gonna surveil terrorists is just simply naive. - [Bohren] Followup, Mr. Greene? - No. - Next question is for Lawrence Struempf from Erich Frankland. - Mr. Struempf, this election is set to be the most expensive in American history, if you're adding everything together, how would you plan to get rid or minimize the impact of money in politics and restore trust in our political system? - Well, I think one of the most important things is to overturn Citizens United and realize that corporations are not people and cannot buy politicians. I believe people should be elected on their merit and what they do not by how much money they have. If four people are running, they should all pretty much have the same options and same media coverage for the election. It is unconstitutional that you can buy an election by having big donors, more specifically big corporate donors. - Mr. Cummings. - I hope in attacking Citizens United, my colleague will also take down unions with it, they should be considered in the same boat, corporations and unions should be able to campaign together or should be restricted together out of fairness, but the idea that we can take a group of candidates and give them equal opportunity will not happen without a fascist control-freak police state, people are different, they campaign differently, they're blocks are different, people are different. - Would you like to follow? Oh, you'd like to speak? - Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't know if it was to anyone or not. Yeah, this is a huge problem, we see it in this race. I mean, when Ms. Cheney raises 90% of funds outside of the state, LA, New York, DC, and Chicago, and let's be honest, folks, they don't give a hoot about Wyoming issues, they want a candidate that can push their agenda because they're investing in something, so I completely think we should overturn Citizens United and have transparency in all campaign spending. I'll be honest, I got a donation from a guy in Pittsburgh, he's a republican, works in the energy sector, he's my brother, and he expects me to pay him back. (laughter) - [Cummings] Is that a donation or a loan? - Good point, it's a loan. - I am really proud to have raised 10 times more money in Wyoming than my competitors, and more money in Wyoming than all of my competitors combined in the primary and in this general election, and what I believe in is absolute complete transparency. I'd like to see a system where as soon as you get a donation or a contribution, you have to immediately disclose it. I think that's the way to ensure we know how money is being spent without limiting 1st Amendment rights, and I would say that the donations that I've had from around the country give you evidence that I am the only candidate on this stage who will be able to get a national focus and a national attention to our issues, that I'll be able to lead the kinda national coalition we need if we're gonna prevail in saving our energy industry, saving our ag industry, repealing Obamacare, saving our families and our small businesses. - Would you like your followup? - I would just like to say that I don't think that how much money you can get from around the nation represents how well you will represent the people of this state. - Next question is for Daniel Cummings from Bob Beck. - Mr. Cummings, what should be done to strengthen the social security system, so it can keep supporting retirees now and in the future? - I'm not trying to strengthen social security, but if you really wanna strengthen it and make it last, raise the retirement age to about 85. Our demographics are disastrous for social security, the people who want to collect from it are not having children, our birthrate, our fertility is down to about 2.1, that's not even replacement. Social security is a Ponzi scheme that depends upon children and grandchildren which we're not producing. It's a national suicide and I don't want to be responsible for the bloodshed that will come fighting over social security. - Mr. Struempf. - It is important, we need to reform social security, I do not have all the answers on how to do it, but it is on a dead-end trail and so we need to either raise the age, cut the caps, or some other aspect to help address the social security problem. - Mr. Greene. - I was recently endorsed by the Alliance for Retired Americans and I'm honored to have their endorsement. There's 4,000 men and women in Wyoming and I complete defend social security. There's a lot of talk about these are entitlement programs, but you've earned them, you've bought 'em, you've paid for 'em, you've put 'em on layaway, and I believe you should get what you paid for. We've got to look at where we're spending our dollars, but Congress gave the Pentagon $3 billion more than it asked for last year, that's a lot of social security. - Ms. Cheney. - I think that we have a solemn obligation to ensure that social security is there. One of the most important things we need to do to save it is stop raiding it. You've seen consistently over the last eight years, this administration raiding social security in order to pay for things like Obamacare, we can't allow that to continue to happen, we've gotta make sure that we begin to take reforms for people who are not at or near retirement, we shouldn't touch that benefit for people who depend on it or who are about to depend on it, but we have to understand that it will not be there for people who are younger if we don't move immediately to begin reforms. - Do we have time for one more question? - We have time for one last question? - [Cummings] Do I get a followup? - [Bohren] Yes, you do, yes, sorry. - Social security might've been paid for, might've been arranged, but Congress has dissipated it, that doesn't mean it should be a problem for our children. I want my children to grow up free of that burden. I am way past the retirement age and I am still working for a living, putting services into this community that are of value, that's what America should do, getting back to the work ethic. Retirement is not a virtuous goal to be pursuing on a federal basis. - Okay, we have time for one last question, it goes to Liz Cheney from Craig Blumenshine. - Ms. Cheney, what do you think the main reason why supporters of your opponents would not support and/or vote for you and what would you say to assure them that if elected that reason would not prevent you from doing what is best for Wyoming? - Well, I obviously am very proud of the support that I've got around the state and very proud of the hard work that's been done on behalf of my campaign and what I see around the state is very much a sense that we have to have change, and it could be, I suppose, that perhaps people who are supporting my opponent don't understand the threat that we're facing, they don't understand that the threat or they haven't felt, perhaps, the threat to our freedom from Washington DC and the threat to our freedom from overseas, but I think there's just absolutely no question that we can't send someone to Washington who's simply gonna sit there and who's gonna caucus with Nancy Pelosi, and said he supports Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, we've got to make sure that our next representative is somebody who's gonna fight for our issues and our rights and our way of life and our freedom. - [Bohren] Mr. Greene. Up here on this stage, I think only one of us knows Nancy Pelosi and it's not me. The reality is look, yeah, we do have challenges that we're facing in this, but big promises are not gonna solve this. Ms. Cheney believes that she can walk into government and start rolling back committees. Last congressional session, freshman congressman, there were 721 bills introduced by freshman, 21 became law, and of those 21, seven were renaming post offices, so the reality is that she's gonna go in and gut the EPA on day one and BLM on day two and the Department of Education on day three is just simply not true, maybe day seven, she'll rest, I don't know, but the reality is we have to be practical with what we can and can't get accomplished in Congress. - Thank you. Mr. Struempf? - It is important that we address every problem with a project management aspect. We need with the people who have different views, in everything, you're never gonna get 100% agreement on anything, you need someone who can come between the parties and work with and to get a consensus that's best for the people of the United States, that knows how to research, understand science, and will work hard to do what is needed for the people of this country and of this state. - Mr. Cummings. - The effectiveness of Congress should not be measured by how many bills are passed. We have way too many bills, way too many laws, way too many regulations interfering with our lives and with our businesses. Congress has the responsibility to do that which is best for America. I believe what is best for America is liberty, I also believe that is what is best for Wyoming, and that is my goal, fewer laws, fewer regulations, more individual freedom. - [Bohren] Thank you, sir. - The candidate in this race who can't be trust is my opponent. He tells you now that he's a Wyoming democrat, he tells you that he's a moderate, he tells you he'll fight for our issues, he caucused for Bernie Sanders and he said-- - Did you caucus here or where you in Virginia? - And he said that Bernie Sanders' socialist way of thinking is a way forward for Wyoming and now he endorses Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton, who will end the extraction of fossil fuels on public lands. Now, he can says he's gonna work with everybody, but we need somebody who's gonna fight for us and it may be that a green freshman member of Congress cannot do those things, but we need a leader, someone who's gonna be able to bring a national focus and attention to these issues. - That concludes the direct question portion of our debate and so at this time, we'll start with the closing statements. The order of the closing statements were determined by random draw before the debate and we'll go from right to left, Mr. Cummings, you have the first closing statement. - Thank you. - I represent the Constitution Party which obviously in this debate is the party of liberty. We have a left party that is almost universally left, we have a right party that spends half of its time moving leftward, we have a libertarian party that has lost its way, I am more libertarian than the libertarian presidential candidate and the congressional candidate. I am the candidate for individual liberty, for smaller government, for peaceful coexistence with one another, and ask that you awaken within yourselves the spirit of our founding fathers who pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor not to build a rich and prosperous nation, not to build a nation with military might, but the American ideal, individual liberty, that is my goal, thank you. - As your libertarian candidate, I believe in less government and more liberties, less federal government and more state control. I believe in protecting all of your individual rights and freedoms. I believe in being fiscally responsible and yet protecting social liberties. I have over my life worked very hard within the communities through leadership activities with community organizations and state organizations to help serve the people of my communities and of this state and of the country. I believe that you need someone who can go to Congress, who will work for you and fight for your rights, who has work experience in different areas, and who knows and understand the people of Wyoming, everything from the cattle ranchers to the teachers to the firefighters to the doctors to the business people, you need a manager, someone management education and experience in Washington to get the job done, someone who knows how to get things completed and who knows how to work with both the left and the right to get a consensus, and yes, I am a moderate libertarian, but we don't need extremist, we have extremists in the democrat, we have extremists in the republican, we have enough extremists in our country, we need more moderate-thinking people to bring the right and left together. - Thank you, sir. Ryan Greene. - Folks, there's enough chaos in Congress, Wyoming doesn't need to contribute to it. We don't need a bomb thrower or a flamethrower in the US House, we need a persuader, a worker, because at the end of the day, we're never gonna agree on everything, but we have to talk. If you ask me we need less money, less hostility, and less gridlock in Congress, we need more Wyoming, we need more real world experience. You know, Ms. Cheney is long on political ambition, but short on Wyoming experience, and during this campaign, she has questioned my loyalty, but folks, I've been loyal to Wyoming my entire life, I run a small business in Rock Springs, I work with the coal mines and the oilfields, and I don't have all the answers, but I know Wyoming's industries and concerns, and I'll work with senators Enzi and Barrasso to make a real impact. You know, this is just a two-year term, so if I don't make Wyoming proud, you can vote me out in two years, getting a democrat out of office in Wyoming, it's not that hard. But if we elect Ms. Cheney and we don't like the results we're getting, we're never gonna budge her. Folks, we've asked a lot of questions tonight, but I wanna ask one more, should your next congressman want to make a difference for Wyoming or want Wyoming to make a difference for them? I'm Ryan Greene and I would be honored to work for you in Congress. - Thank you, sir. Liz Cheney. - It has been truly, as I said, an incredible eight and a half months since we launched our campaign in Gillette. Over those eight and half months, my family and I have been so blessed by the outpouring of support all across the state, it is absolutely the blessing of our lives, of all of our lives, that we get to live here in this time and in this place where we're guided by our faith, by our family, and by absolute dedication to freedom, and where we have all the resources we need to prosper and grow right here in Wyoming, but it is exactly those freedoms and those resources that are under assault from Washington DC, from a massive out of control federal government. Now, you cannot expect somebody to solve a problem when he doesn't even seem to think there is a problem. At this perilous moment, when the stakes are as high as they are, we have to send someone to Washington to represent us who will lead an effort on behalf of our constitutional rights. On behalf of restoring our freedoms, on behalf of bringing back jobs to our state, not someone who is gonna be a foot soldier in Hillary Clinton's or Nancy Pelosi's army. The stakes could not be higher and it would be the honor of my life to be your representative in Washington DC. With your help and with your support, I will work every single day, standing shoulder to shoulder with all of you to restore our freedoms, defend our constitution, bring back our way of life, so that we can hand this state and all that we love and hold dear onto the next generation. Thank you, God bless you, God bless Wyoming, and God bless the United States of America. - Thank you for attending this debate. Thank you for attending this debate, we hope that it helps you make a considered decision on who you wish to represent you in the US House of Representatives, and at this time on behalf of Wyoming Public Television, Casper College, and the Casper Star Tribune, thank you to the candidates and I hope you'll join me in thanking the candidates for their time this evening. - Bob, thank. - Thank you, good job.


Republican Primary






Campaign finance reports
Candidate Amount raised
Ed Murray $508,200
Edward Buchanan $124,816
Peter S. Illoway $119,017
Clark Stith $35,557
Source: National Institute on Money in State Politics[7]


Republican primary results[8]
Party Candidate Votes %
Republican Ed Murray 32,944 36.75%
Republican Edward Buchanan 31,312 34.93%
Republican Peter S. Illoway 16,596 18.52%
Republican Clark Stith 8,511 9.50%
Write-In Write-In 274 0.31%
Total votes 156,407 100%

Third Parties



  • Jennifer Young (Constitution), Wyoming Constitution Party Chairwoman
  • Howard Carson (Libertarian), future President of the Wyoming Libertarian Party[9]


Campaign finance reports
Candidate Amount raised
Ed Murray $508,200
Jennifer Young $10,121
Howard Carson $0
Source: National Institute on Money in State Politics[7]


Wyoming Secretary of State election, 2014[10]
Party Candidate Votes %
Republican Ed Murray 119,772 69.98%
Constitution Jennifer Young 18,918 11.05%
Libertarian Howard Carson 16,858 9.85%
Write-In Write-In 859 0.5%
Over Votes Other 47 0.2%
Under Votes Other 14,699 8.59%
Total votes 171,153 100%


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  4. ^ "Clark Stith Announces Candidacy For Secretary of State".
  5. ^ "Dan Zwonitzer announces bid for Wyoming secretary of state".
  6. ^ "Wyoming Secretary of State Max Maxfield won't seek re-election".
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  8. ^ "Republican primary results" (PDF).
  9. ^ "Barron: Third-party movement stalled".
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