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1961 Rand Grand Prix

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1961 Rand Grand Prix
Non-championship race in the 1961 Formula One season
Race details
Date 9 December 1961
Official name IV Rand Grand Prix
Location Kyalami, Johannesburg
Course Permanent racing facility
Course length 4.096 km (2.545 miles)
Distance 75 laps, 307.184 km (190.875 miles)
Pole position
Driver Lotus-Climax
Time 1:38.5
Fastest lap
Driver Sweden Jo Bonnier Porsche
Time 1:39.1
Podium
First Lotus-Climax
Second Lotus-Climax
Third Porsche

The 4th Rand Grand Prix was a motor race, run to South African Formula One-style rules, held on 9 December 1961 at Kyalami, South Africa. The race was run over 75 laps of the circuit, and was won by British driver Jim Clark, who led from start to finish in his Lotus 21.

There were no great differences between the local rules to which this race was run and the international Formula One rules, but for example sports car bodies were permitted, such as those driven by Jennings and Bosman.

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five percent um... arranged for them to have all their photographs we arrange that transport surrendered you can imagine the telephone calls of american behalf of say the beatles which sort of worldwide re-elect him immense tinted windows tremendous s but senior financial control tower three young men like you to be in how to do get into it had to stop i started um... while starr was in terms of the records division of family conservative bridge our walls and and the spirit moves to the director uh... we what costs or i was asked by var for correct caused by a group the beatles and it always have been our policy and records to look after whatever request was made and i followed up this inquired i don't know anything about it uh... and it was only after a week or two which he told me that they were infected liverpool group i i p assume for some reason that they were from germany examine very livable group and that they're just in fact returned from germany and they were playing in the club called captain about a hundred yards where tomorrow arranged to go down there and i saw the woman mid-day sessions pitted and at the time it was a pretty uh... you pretty much of an eye opener to go down into this darkened dense smoky seller in the middle of the day undersea crowds in cramped kids forgeries for uh... your own storage there were sort of thing well the scuffle address has been in the most possible wet why should send in the most attractive way uh... black leather jackets and jeans uh... long and of course and uh... rob untidy stage presentation not terribly aware not caring very much what their school they looked like i think they can add more humid what they sounded like i think they still camera or they sound like on the issue that you know the important to know of what they look like the cause of you know television and so on the changes in the appearance of any country you will put you encourage them to go to dress in such alonso i would say that it was due to the five of us rather than from me um... highly encourage them first to get out of leather jackets and jeans and the hyatt wouldn't allow them to appear in jeans uh... after a short time and then after that step uh... are caught them to what i think sweaters on stage m uh... very reluctantly eventually suits i think it was for that but one of their first sort of major appearances i'm not sure britain when i first suits for bbc broadcaster marv organs his suits who could be cool call hello i'm frankly until and type of jackie conference opened jemison years ago did the boys chooses deficit will you they did actually i i'm very much with my approved for listener design of the time it quickly became sort of other overworked hundred along with sort of interesting for them to wear but uh... they first discovered as i think the idea originated from france pierre cardin on that day you first went to the kaplan and sol the beatles he taught women yes i did estimate you've spotted that counted cements limited use on the mountain bellman gardener come in with an interest in actual fact hyatt commenced to go around with them almost we could sell art uh... and then they reworked her out basis for recruitment which they didn't get to this time and i didn't actually stopped take anything out of that money which was very little in any case uh... until although for months afterwards uh... actually the first meeting that we have the first business meeting we had realtor maestro echohawk trumpeter stars parkway using rather uh... three of the boys arrived at that point time four o'clock i was very busy ordering records christmas and uh... poll didn't so school replaced reports respect what was meeting they want to do something about management consultant and on some of what's going on the phone term he came back they said we're just caught up in the past starts for fifth chatted about a bit less for there describes windy and uh... how can he be say late important thank you and uh... george just simply reply regards very difficult problem well maybe late which is very clear you take these bought his who've long gone right to the top of only available trees off for them line what what what was it about them i liked them enormously i needed to like the sound that i heard i heard that sound before i met them i think that uh... that's important because uh... i think that it should always be remembered in fact people here that sounded like this and before that meet them they are important but i was i mean it lacked what i heard him i thought that which was somehow with smoke a lot of people would like through a fraction of what honest and the had what i did assault with a sort of presents and this is terrible vague term stock quarter whenever that is that it's art part sends the packet this almost is this going to go the label fishes are going to come up to buy time on the exposure that there's some pictures certainly not i think that's absolutely they will go in the reverse direction they will become morals i mean less frank an alternate tolbert uh... i think the best sell aware of this simple uh... presents of a project i was interested in one thing you saying then when you first saw the because they appear to have little idea off stage presentation uh... which implies some sort of knowledge or feeling collect yourself review petty innocent training yes ourselves that roger for eighteen months approximately organ cracker should send to the family business next tiptoe education organized papa let's talk about a promise with all this fits into context what social family is your family uh... middle-class background perhaps a little better short you know retail stores uh... oldest averaged was started by my grandfather uh... principally in furniture when i left school appeared to sixty arent had ambitions to be address designer uh... and also to be an actor but my family were very keen on this and allowed myself to be swayed uh... into going into the business i think i was more anxious to leave school than anything else addington georgia which wasn't greeting card choc chip went into the family business and diet didn't apprenticeships for furniture coming outside about us about six months and then uh... found myself back in the family business and interest of myself in the display armed advertising side infects uh... we opened uh... uh... store specifically for me to work it and uh... and develop interior decoration charge rather interested in but by the time of up to twenty one are still feeling that sort of bug about acting on the stage solemn and i removed one baram actor who are not tremendously said um... i was chatting to a nice sort of admiring his idea doesn't sound so forth and he said i said do you know it's i'd feel so much like an old manager wandering around trying to interview quicker shraddha presses i thought so i called i've decided then to take more vision which i promised from um... the director of our time allowed me to get to know the cricket but i think by that time was too much of a businessman enjoy being a student and i didn't like being a student at all when this opportunity was presented again to rejoin the kind of business in records i was rather attractive but because it still happens because of this over you have spectrum stage left and i thought that it would be the best thing and i enjoyed this very much indeed i found i liked working and nichols as much jessica was a simple well sure what sort of music and his head to head really what school you had risen musical yes i was told by the violin and i was very interesting transformers price quote for a lot of concerts communal pool and uh... i didn't really have a lot of time for pops until i was it very much in the record business coming i mean the retails ears and i used to go and see a lot of options in packages and some the musical interests you kindly debate make you feel that uh... the soulful music you are handling now is worthwhile knows i'm saying to think that modern pop is is good music i don't know about it in court music but it's an art form anyway a not for me purchase homes and yes boris do you know i'm not about music to have it and any say in the actual uh... compositional recording all arrangement among those who don't know about music but i know about i think i know about pixels at numbers experiments is anyone in the recording studios with whom you might possibly clash of the the sort of issue george martin is their beatles many of my own artists for co-director uh... but we get home extreme well fortunately and we worked very closely on what is recorded once titles of the side of the problem uh... the rest is really left and my sitting on a lot of sessions and so on uh... and i'll say what i think about various records and what size should be a suit he makes the recordings i am not a technical person at all you get home anywhere with him didn't do a lot of people on the home uh... of restoring that someone with people unless one doesn't like them ispat if you're going to be a way to get on well with people in this particular business the role of the impresario are you still seem to need to be a strange fish in a very weird sort of see can get away with the impresario is going to conclude on the whole i think so um... you know maybe quite a lot of andrea about uh... i'm i'm aware of that which for that reason that i think that it's up to me to try it personally to make up but i attended because it isn't a nice things for other people to feel particularly if i was envious of some of it uh... who was doing something that i A of modern wished if i could do i'd be very envious and almost annotated he was cockpit nasty to me but if he was a nice trip uh... was always presents because his i'm good to talk to him so on to me i've just endgame with admiration impression his relationship with the artists unusual want to say and and i think so i think it's a kind of personal one for uh... considering the car acting role uh... manager and agent waterfront park singles on her behalf a manager and an agent to compile write up a separate center tasks well the pleasures of management and what could be a good uh... lots development of a marxist to a certain extent i suppose it must be something in the actual determines smartest which is very gratifying away and and that tremendous laurel tree uh... and also i like marxists is people very much i think dole great people are going to mean that uh... it was recently written about me that probably enjoyed that's the company of my office and it's quite remarkable that uh... was written in a complex where i don't have uh... much of a social life i'm not most of my time spent with margins glucophage enfield pushes into specific moment in management when you really get a kick if you had uh... uh... real kick out of any aspect of management with when he was going to pick a record comes and have criminal records it's number one best that it is great feeling it's it's a simple thing really but it's a great feeling because you you've been rocked not just for dr you've been right the record image has been rocked the song was right now to switch off and it was pushed over in the right way and one feels that all ones like the sort of something worthwhile it's just like whispers winning the race has just gotten is not just the recording artist list on getting somewhat but so much happens because record as hit number one classes to suddenly important arnelle wanted everywhere because the record should look so there is going to be number one in other parts of the world it'll the said that record in the trucks means a great deal to not just in this didn't hedge most under an immense amount of pre planning unanimity in trip when you start thinking about it for example well obviously once thought about america uh... in connection with the beatles for long time because i always arnolds park shore really because we make it bigger i was we're all one of the turned about it because knock that we seem to be a certain records nothing much was happening and i went awry anne have a look around and see why didn't run since the american market i also talked with me and i'm lou wonderful myron orchestrated requirement uh... to do some promotional work which i thought would be a accord idea and both worked quite well actually insofar as sort of looking around and seeing them what was the matter uh... i think that it was uh... it was very simple mum on sir um... to the boys were cameras are didn't think that we get produced a record which was right for the american market but i don't think i think this into an awful lot of american pop music and what was currently popular then but i want to hold your hand which was just about to be answered walls the right one plus the fact this an awful lot of information had filtered through from the british press from the royal command the palladium the scenes in london on beatlemania as call in general uh... there was great interests abet stage it was just the right moment the issue purple i wanna hold her hand timing seems to come into the summer earned was determined can tripped assad such a success because it was perfectly terminal park are things that helped tremendously uh... are didn't impart couldn't possibly say it was lifetime of that because i knew it would be exactly right but it it it was right as it happens that ed sullivan berserk over at that particular moment please do it sort of interest could not have been more right the records would just at the top had been at the top of that week most of the top and fit in very well indeed will eventually stopped snowing again timing may have come into this to making the film yes but the conscious deliberate decision will help other people persuaded isn't it well we've had film off is obviously since the boys first started to have big say a prayer um... a lot of them we didn't like and i would did start to get tub because obviously feldman's when important laughing because and that include the thing which really started off this film i think the idea howland island uh... because the people who make a member of the since i was i i thought this is an expert much much protein missed them bingo involved in producing this wonderful slightly s uh... and and and and what kind of project pasteur dot technip upon myself to produce during the pittsburgh expelled timid about going into new areas highly technical areas like this was a great deal of knowledge or experience but merely because one study is quite a lot from come outside his point of view not relent starts to manage the beatles and builders revenues principle how long looking further ahead in the future is going to be before muscle of noise be beatles make is out of fashion it does seem to me that gender business-like sort of change even now uh... in general trend but i don't they seek to believe interns and pull user content and what sort of black got to do with standard of moses sound or the pizza or anything like that what are these slight signs of the change that to detect and cotton shipment our fingers but that the heavy uh... beat pounder he's lessening the popularity of it and i think that mister of those uh... i'm more social sort of sound coming which is a problem nice i think which are good uh... could harmonic to muscled examples r_r_ or discontinue border that are having to do arts fair such hopped fragrance from from what i think it's that coming sound for the next humans who have been a core group picture when those it sounds this phrase i gather you don't like uh... was of course corn presumably newspaperman because of the crockpot of groups coming from the cool it down and i found a protector here uh... it the liverpool adio seem to get the movement some sort of strength but you yourself of no just moved on to london's in his innocence i've moved with great reluctance victory because i like the reporter likes people obviously uh... pulled into the city her quite a lot patel walls but it was becoming almost impossible to organize uh... my own life uh... didn't do the best tatar code for the rafters um... moving between portland and so much has to be done the artists uh... performance offering them to make that records in london and tom so forth uh... i suppose that one was forced into it or not terribly unhappy about it uh... it's it's said in a way it's but it doesn't really mean that we think any less of the before we want to be less than the roof of my home is a beautiful and uh... i intend to return the as much as i can but it may even if it list talent spotting ability of the ocean let me get a feel taken right out of his little clinton less so many groups all just beginning yes this is something that looks like it worries me because uh... i used to be around for rooms and clouds pretty much more than i am now because simply involved in every business conferences or time i hope harsh which are very consciously to avoid being away from a cold because that's the part of the business which i enjoy i'd much rather goto ballroom of what groups and during an evening them uh... says having a heavy demand distressing for which probably won't come off anyway this mismanaging bit managing office would his amendment should do for the artist let's assume the beatles fulbright boys want bonus code yes why couldn't they cope with the sort of things themselves well they wouldn't they bothered to do so anyway as they are present but do you mean as it has now does not do you mean is that what's gonna happen as well let's take those two separate things from two-and-a-half years ago quebec and got themselves tube where there are no without no i don't think i was appalled at work they were playing around the camps liverpool and having great fun but i don't think that they would have problems to do anything about it and they may not have done it in the right way yelling inexperienced people from a business point of view are not really very good presenting themselves properly in the right quarters so also one advised them uh... a lot of things you look after their business affairs but the degree management will work for you could do on our kids to a certain extent depends upon i would say on the personal relationship between manager how do quite a with a great deal for all of them that this is because there's a strong sort of personal link but now then let's consider the beatles as they are not the position though no do they really need a man until fall future development i would say they made a manager moral now than ever because the seo much work involved in wash we called the management one could say the organization of the people's but they couldn't possibly curriculums do they need you was a manager while they got to stage now what anybody could manage them when you the technical side i don't think that anybody could merge them because i don't think vehicles with would be managed or anyone else hazardous personally of russia for saying that actually but uh... i i think the texture do get much of the spectrum from the sense of power uh... running this organisation make it no i don't feel it circular because are well rush critical business needs sort of controlling human beings is a powerful thing but i don't think of it as such are trying hard to under an indian tribe dr justin r_u_ in your own opinion a particularly good businessmen as a businessman uh... i've got a business background and uh... probably a reasonable business period removed from you sort of genius well-heeled defects and while chill uh... better than you know that i think you know i'm probly sort of too conscious of idea this trough of them uh... finance behind ideas do you think the rhonda episode on the settled a little form pilla business now i think it hasn't been a good thing for the no i didn't actually like being a student uh... was it it was a very good thing won't mean to correct it was quite interesting is much better off we thought that unrealized about acting rhonda about six months afternoon after we're going to go to selected not at the time i'd like to think that i met them as it left you with a uh... distaste for all of the real tasteful filter current extra fat realtor the experiments are would uh... would liked so much to produce harassment acting sharon okay stricter will sort of place and possibly some by check off our modern straight drama also dramatist uh... possible everyone knows about you've come in to this business from most unusual surroundings and circumstances a stripped down an enormous number of things that happened to you and the people you working with in the last two and a half years computers each a different sort of live from the one you need to know no certainly not uh... i'd like but i'm doing in the thai in in the car look forward with pleasure to films and presenting shows and possibly catching to flee midget side but this is certainly a part of the work that i like best another back to the family business adventure

Results

Pos Driver Entrant Constructor Time/Retired Grid
1 United Kingdom Jim Clark Team Lotus Lotus-Climax 2.06:26.3 1
2 United Kingdom Trevor Taylor Team Lotus Lotus-Climax + 0.1 s 2
3 Sweden Jo Bonnier Porsche System Engineering Porsche + 22.0 s 4
4 Germany Edgar Barth Porsche System Engineering Porsche 74 laps 9
5 South Africa Bruce Johnstone Yeoman Credit Racing Team Cooper-Climax 73 laps 8
6 South Africa Ernie Pieterse Scuderia Alfa Heron-Alfa Romeo 72 laps 7
7 South Africa Syd van der Vyver Syd van der Vyver Lotus-Alfa Romeo 72 laps 6
8 South Africa Fanie Viljoen G.E. Mennie LDS-Climax 70 laps 16
9 South Africa Bob van Niekerk Equipe Judette Lotus-Ford 70 laps 13
10 South Africa Doug Serrurier Scuderia Lupini Cooper-Maserati 69 laps 15
11 South Africa Bruce Jennings Bill Jennings Jennings-Porsche 67 laps 19
Ret United States Masten Gregory UDT Laystall Racing Team Lotus-Climax Overheating 3
Ret Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland Sam Tingle Sam Tingle LDS-Alfa Romeo Gearbox 14
Ret South Africa Bernard Podmore Bernard Podmore Lotus-Ford Accident 21
Ret South Africa Helmut Menzler Ecurie Wolman Lotus-Borgward Overheating 10
Ret South Africa John Guthrie Ecurie Rhodes Cooper-Alfa Romeo Water pipe 17
Ret South Africa Tony Maggs Yeoman Credit Racing Team Cooper-Climax Overheating 5
Ret South Africa Bill Dunlop Bill Dunlop Cooper-Alfa Romeo Engine 23
Ret South Africa Don Philp Don Philp Quodra-Climax Overheating 11
Ret South Africa Rauten Hartmann Rauten Hartmann Netuar-Peugeot Engine 24
Ret South Africa Gene Bosman Scuderia Alfa Lotus-Alfa Romeo Engine 20
Ret South Africa Jack Holme Jack Holme Lotus-Climax Accident 22
Ret South Africa Trevor Blokdyk Trevor Blokdyk Cooper-Ford Accident 18
Ret South Africa Clive Trundell Clive Trundell Cooper-Climax Puncture 25
DNS South Africa Adrian Pheiffer Adrian Pheiffer Cooper-Alfa Romeo Engine in practice (12)
WD South Africa Neville Lederle Neville Lederle Lotus-Ford Car not ready -
WD Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland John Love A.H. Pillman LDS-Porsche Car not ready -
WD South Africa Dawie Gous Dawie Gous Porsche RSK Car not ready -
  • Bonnier was still on his warm-up lap when the race started, thus he was half a lap down at the start.

References

  • "The Grand Prix Who's Who", Steve Small, 1995.
  • "The Formula One Record Book", John Thompson, 1974.
  • Race results at www.silhouet.com [1]


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