Pornography in Germany

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[MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: Hey, I'm Ryan Duffy, and we're here in New York City. We actually just got back to the States. We spent some time down in Colombia, where we found out that some of the locals-- they fuck donkeys. We're on the Caribbean here in Cartagena, Colombia. The city basically looks like it was constructed from the daydreams of frustrated nine-to-fivers. You can picture some fat guy in a cubicle going, goddamn, I just wish I was on a beach somewhere that was more beautiful than any beach I've ever seen in a city with absolutely beautiful architecture and filled with gorgeous women. That's Cartagena. [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: Some of our friends had been telling us that on the northern coast of Colombia, people fuck donkeys. Foolishly, we basically said, we'll believe that when we see it. So we flew down to Cartagena and figured we'd do some investigating of our own. ANASTASIA MALONEY: It's a really macho culture. And they really value the chase here. Colombian men think the chase is incredibly important. I'm from London. I'm a freelance journalist here. I've been living here for five years. And I'm married to a Colombian. Colombian men think they're the best dancers in the world because they've never had anyone to tell them otherwise. People used to talk, and they used to say, oh, the Costonians are-- all they do is party, they drink, and-- the joke was-- they fuck donkeys. No one actually said, I've done it. They'd always said, oh no, my friends have done it, and it's quite common that you lived on a farm, you'll see people with their own special donkey. And yes, it's something that you do. It's totally cultural and it's normal. It's just a different way of seeing sex. It's just a different way of looking at it. RYAN DUFFY: Right. FEMALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] FEMALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] FEMALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: We're here in Turbaco, which is just a little bit outside of Cartagena. We're getting a tour of the land from our new friends here. And then we're going to go see about this donkey fucking thing. So when we got back from Colombia, we were so freaked out and so totally confused by what we'd seen and what you're about to see that we felt like we really had to go see a sex therapist, if only so we didn't spend the next two weeks of our lives crying in the fetal position. So we're here in the offices of Dr. Hani Miletski. She is the author of this book, which is Understanding Bestiality and Zoophilia. Could you break down what's bestiality, what's zoophilia? What are the differences in terms? HANI MILETSKI: There's really very different things, those two. Bestiality is sex with animals. That's the act. And zoophilia is more about feelings, about attraction. When somebody uses "zoophile," it's sort of like a sexual orientation in a way, while bestiality is sort of like using the animal as a form of masturbation. Bestiality has been going on throughout history in every culture, basically. In my book, I even mention an agriculture society in northern Colombia called Cagaba. And in that society, it is an ancient pre-Colombian belief. "Adolescent males will not achieve competence in marriage unless they practice intercourse with donkeys." [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: Colombia is very religious and super Catholic. So a lot of these girls are not having sex until they're married or whatever it is. All of which is fine, but all of which leaves our friend over here and various other 14-year-olds with basically a six-year long case of blue balls. [MUSIC PLAYING] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] FEMALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] RYAN DUFFY: What's with the whole initiation thing, anyway? You're not going to find that in the States, right? You get initiated together. It's 13-year-old boys and girls in rec rooms groping each other and it's awkward and terrible, but they're of the same species. So what's keeping that from happening here? ANASTASIA MALONEY: There comes a certain age of 12, 13, 14, and if they hadn't had a sexual experience, they hadn't had sex, then they're not a man. I mean, they just can't go around saying that they're a virgin. RYAN DUFFY: So in junior high, a lot of credibility is based on how many people you've made out with and all that stuff. So we're trying to sort out here which one of these two little guys-- both of them are 14-- have fucked more donkeys. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] FEMALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] RYAN DUFFY: Oh my god. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] RYAN DUFFY: We heard a lot of different reasoning from the folks we spoke to down there. And it ran the gamut between really practical reasons to stuff that we found a little more far-fetched, like, oh, it enlarges the size of the penis. HANI MILETSKI: I have heard that there are other civilizations who believe that having sex with an animal, specifically donkey-- I mean, that's what I came across-- will enlarge penises. Like Muslim countries, fathers will encourage their sons to have sex with a donkey so that their penises will grow and that they will learn to be better lovers. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING SPANISH] RYAN DUFFY: We're about a 35 minute cab ride outside of Cartagena, which is a beautiful Caribbean city where I'd say-- a rough estimate-- every other girl is a fucking 10, give or take. And the ugly girls are sevens. And we are here, 35 minutes from there, and our friend here is going to fuck a donkey. [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: So after talking to all these folks in Turbaco, hearing all their stories, pretty much thought that we'd heard and seen it all. Little did we know that our cab driver was so happy to help and eager to share this part of the culture with us, that we were about to see a whole lot more. [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: So Martin took us out to this field. And the sun was setting and there were all kinds of trees and a couple little lakes, and it was quite beautiful. MARTIN: [SPEAKING SPANISH] HANI MILETSKI: What I'm hearing from people who had sex with animals and then they want to have sex with humans, how different it is for them-- that they're not equipped with the knowledge of what to do when-- they call it "mind games." That with people you have to play mind games and you have to figure out what they want, while the animals, it's like it's right there. And then, if you try to translate that to humans, it's-- humans are a lot more complicated. On top of the fact that sometimes it feels different. Especially, I hear from men who had sex with female dogs that the female dogs are a lot tighter. And they say, after you had sex with a female dog, you don't want to have sex with a woman anymore. MARTIN: [SPEAKING SPANISH] HANI MILETSKI: And even when it comes to zoophilia, I mean like sexual orientation, there's different degrees. Somebody may be completely straight and somebody may be completely gay, but there's all these different shades in the middle. And I think Martin is somewhere in the middle, because he has a wife and I'm assuming he has sex with her, but because he was talking about, fantasizing about, women, I would assume that he's not completely zoo. He's somewhere in between. MARTIN: [SPEAKING SPANISH] [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: So Martin is back there preparing. He's getting himself aroused and preparing to fuck the donkey. So he's going to give us a shout when he's ready to mount. There's nothing good. It's walking behind a tree to find a-- oh no. Oh no. It's like the surprise you knew was coming and you didn't want to be there. [MUSIC PLAYING] RYAN DUFFY: Really not into it, man. It's one of those careful what you ask for situations where I thought it was going to be really funny, and now I'm so bummed and there's not enough fucking rum in all of Colombia. We were told a variety of reasons that this might be happening. We were told it's a gender role thing. We were told it has to do with the predominant Catholicism in Colombia. Even an economic reason was suggested to us. There's a million things. I'm not going to wrap this up in any tidy package, because it doesn't exist. I watched a man fuck a donkey, and it probably changed me for the rest of my life. But the reality probably is that there are probably people fucking animals all over the fucking place. And it's certainly not distinctly a Colombian thing. Now I definitely think it's safe to say that we really have seen it all. Way too damn much, in fact. Even now, back in New York, everywhere I look, I keep seeing these Colombian donkeys. [MUSIC PLAYING]